nycfarmkid Underboss
 1210 Posts



 Wadsworth, OH
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nycfarmkid Underboss
 1210 Posts



 Wadsworth, OH
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IanB Commander
 3112 Posts




 | | 07/25/2005 11:55 PM |
| As an extra exercise in player education, you could try including a few subpar pieces deliberately in most of the bands and ask them after playing if they can figure out which ones they are.
GFD/dire bears fits all your criteria. Here is a really simple one that doesn't even use greycloaks:
GFD Dire Bear x2 Celestial Pegasus Timber Wolf x6
A simple LE melee band:
Urthok Snig + 3 skirmishers Skullcrusher Ogre x2 Bladebearer Hobgoblin x2 Flamebrother Salamander x2 3 point goblinoids to fill | | Anson on WotC boards | |
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 Vrecknidj Warlord
 10445 Posts


 United States
 | | 07/26/2005 12:00 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by IanB
As an extra exercise in player education, you could try including a few subpar pieces deliberately in most of the bands and ask them after playing if they can figure out which ones they are.
Brilliant! Thanks.
Dave | | Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing; My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
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Korhal_IV Sergeant
 852 Posts




 | | 07/26/2005 12:11 AM |
| Greenfang Druid Greycloak x2 Medium Astral Construct x9
...ok, just kidding. :D
CE: LRD x2 Gnoll Sergeant
LG: Cleric of Dol Arrah Justice Archon x2 Dwarven Phalanx Soldier x4 Celestial Black Bear Hill Dwarf Warrior x6
LE: Orog Warlord (Orc Savage x2) Snig the Axe (Skirmishers x3) Chraal x2 Gauth | | I now have a Have/Want list updated with all my rares! Stop by to take a look! Trade References: www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8560 | |
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Thespian Sergeant
 442 Posts



 Lethbridge, Alberta
 | | 07/26/2005 12:56 AM |
| LE Snig+3minions Urthock 2xBugbears Efreet Medusa 3x goblin Skirm
CG Ryld Thri-Kreen Barabarian 4x Xeph Goliath Half-Giant Psychic Warrior | | A wand of silence means never having to say you're sorry. CHAMPION OF THE ANNIS HAG!!! | |
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Kithmaker Commander
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NightMoor Sergeant
 448 Posts




 | | 07/26/2005 2:37 AM |
| Some fun Tier 2s:
LG
Stone Giant Ulmo Lightbringer Cleric of Order 6x Man at Arms ---> boost Ulmo and Giant with Cleric, swing away!
CE
Hezrou Lich Necro Cursed Spirit 6x Orc Savage 3x Orc Warrior ---> Use Stench and Cursed Aura to sink opponent's saves, then get Lich to Hold Monster/punch the guy you want to paralyze; follow up with 30 damage swings from Savages.
CG
4x Longstrider Ranger Inspiring Marshall Graycloak Wolf 5x Elf Warrior ---> easy to pilot, aggressive and fun
LE
Fire Giant Rakshasa Snig 3x Sniglets 2x Skirmishers 2x Mongrelfolk 2x Blue
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Dr.Cornelius Warrior
 338 Posts




 | | 07/26/2005 3:59 AM |
| Sneaky Goblins! 34 Urthok the Vicious (Cmd 5) 34 Bugbear Champ (Cmd 2) 20 Snig the Axe (Cmd 0) 00 Goblin Skirmisher x3 (minions) 24 Destrachan 64 Bugbear Footpad x4 10 Goblin Adept 06 Goblin Sneak 05 Blue 03 Mongrelfolk 200 points / 14 activations
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 Avatar of the Tank Newtoncain Commander
 2985 Posts



 Land of 10,000 taxes
 | | 07/26/2005 7:06 AM |
| LG-Couatl, WFH x 2, WFF x 2, WFW, CoY, HDW x 2 and M@A x 3. (hope my math is correct).
CG-Arch mage, Elf Pyro, Bladsinger, Ren warlock and 2 x xeph
LE-GD x 4, Urthok, Snig (+ minions), Barb Merc x 2, Azer x 2, Mongrelfolk x 2.
CE-Vamp, Orc Chump, Orge Rav, Cursed Spirit x 4, Trog x 3. | | They just don't know what's good in life...Conan, tell them what is good in life. To rip the boosters. To count the minis spilled out before you, and to hear the indifference of the women... | |
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 Vrecknidj Warlord
 10445 Posts


 United States
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andytum Sergeant
 400 Posts




 | | 07/26/2005 11:50 AM |
| | Drizzt, Rask, Eberk, Krusk, Kerwyn, Redgar (HF), Tordek, Jozan, Lidda, Gnome Recruit | | | |
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doone Warrior
 262 Posts




 | | 07/26/2005 12:04 PM |
| how about
1x Eye of Grummsh 2x Red Samurai 1x Tiefling Captain 2x Curse Spirit 2x Orc Warrior 4x Abyssal Maw
12 activations
The Curse serves as protections from range...The tiefling is for initiative and to be sure the Red Samurais to fight till death...Eye serves as a backup fighter or finisher that guides the Red Samurais so that they're always in command...Because of the Curse Aura too, the DC of the BW of the Samurais would likely to be 16...The Abyssal Maws for great damage against a similar warband that has big hitters with low AC...the orc warriors ar e for activations...
This warband is cheap...the only rare is the Eye of Grummsh...
| | fight to the end successful trade:(2x)time-bandit,Bloody,litorian,romers,(2x)lecanZ,nixlord,kumag,ilarue,bugsy,robby,kypdurron,Shadow Lord, llyrsln,nyjastul69,Alakhai
pending:
http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=566 http://www.maxminis.com/hwlist.asp?user=doone
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doone Warrior
 262 Posts




 | | 07/26/2005 12:13 PM |
| 1x Vampire Aristocrat 1x Eye of Grummsh 1x Orc Champion 4x Curse Spirit 5x Orc Warrior
12 activations
i didn't include Ogre Ravager because of its size and speed...Eye and OC is enough to dealt a great damage to force enemies for morale...the curse spirits are there to protect your hitters and for the Cusre Aura...You can have a Red Samurai instead of an Orc Champion if you're out of OC... | | fight to the end successful trade:(2x)time-bandit,Bloody,litorian,romers,(2x)lecanZ,nixlord,kumag,ilarue,bugsy,robby,kypdurron,Shadow Lord, llyrsln,nyjastul69,Alakhai
pending:
http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=566 http://www.maxminis.com/hwlist.asp?user=doone
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doone Warrior
 262 Posts




 | | 07/26/2005 12:19 PM |
| i've also got a Cg warband that i can share
1x Drizzst, Drow Ranger 1x Rask, Half-Orc Chainfighter 1x Krusk, Half-Orc Barbarian 1x Graycloak Ranger (1x wolf minion) 1x Ialdabode, Human Psion 1x Mialee, Elf Wizard 4x Elf Warrior 1x Gnome Recruit (can switch to Xeph Warrrior)
| | fight to the end successful trade:(2x)time-bandit,Bloody,litorian,romers,(2x)lecanZ,nixlord,kumag,ilarue,bugsy,robby,kypdurron,Shadow Lord, llyrsln,nyjastul69,Alakhai
pending:
http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=566 http://www.maxminis.com/hwlist.asp?user=doone
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warty_nosed_goblin Underboss
 1384 Posts




 | | 07/26/2005 12:23 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by doone
how about
1x Eye of Grummsh 2x Red Samurai 1x Tiefling Captain 2x Curse Spirit 2x Orc Warrior 4x Abyssal Maw
12 activations
The Curse serves as protections from range...The tiefling is for initiative and to be sure the Red Samurais to fight till death...Eye serves as a backup fighter or finisher that guides the Red Samurais so that they're always in command...Because of the Curse Aura too, the DC of the BW of the Samurais would likely to be 16...The Abyssal Maws for great damage against a similar warband that has big hitters with low AC...the orc warriors ar e for activations...
This warband is cheap...the only rare is the Eye of Grummsh...
I like it, but to make it even cheaper, and to get slightly tighter synergy, I'd sub a flind captain for the eye, getting the red sams up to 25 damage swings, and the flind is no pushover either. | | Call me: W.N. Gobo! originally posted by grim: While he is clearly insane, he does have a point. | |
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 Faragdar the Wise Commander
 3523 Posts



 Albuquerque, NM, USA
 | | 07/26/2005 2:11 PM |
| How about this themed band:
Lich Necromancer Clay Golem Zombie White Dragon Cursed Spirit Minotaur Skeleton Deathlock Zombie
Maybe it's not good enough to be tier 2, but it is pretty forgiving and relatively simple. There are 3 large creatures, but one of them flies. The toughest thing for a new player will be remembering the Lich Necromancer's commander effect.
Maybe this is too ranged heavy to be workable, but learning how ranged bands fare on the battlefield can be a good thing to learn early:
Ryld Half-elf Bow Initiate Wand Expert Graycloak Ranger + Wolf x2 Goliath Barbarian Elf Warrior x2 | | "Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish." - Albert Einstein Champion of Myopic Half-Orcs Winner, WBC X | |
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NightMoor Sergeant
 448 Posts




 | | 07/26/2005 2:26 PM |
| More Tier 2 goodness!
Uniques Away!
Ulmo Lightbringer Regdar, Adventurer Rask Nebbin Cleric of Yondalla Hill Dwarf 5x MaA ---> Blur the big boys, Charge!!!!!
Death From Above
Sword Archon 3x Justice Archon Barb. Merc. 3x MaA Hill Dwarf --->Justice may be blind, but it carries a big boomstick
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cooter926 Sneak
 165 Posts




 | | 07/26/2005 4:07 PM |
| Monks attack young master lion falcon x2 whirling steel ember standardbearer sun soul initiate mialee hill dwarf x3
confuse THIS! yaun ti abomination yuan ti half blood x2 yuan ti pureblood x2 39 pts CE hitter (if you have one left) harpy abyssal maw x4
Harpy fun Frost giant tiefling harpy x 3 gravehound x2 gnoll abyssal maw | | Succesfull trades: Lowix (wotc), Kaya Kenobi, Halstan (wotc), Spikegif x 2, minatoman38, sidious515 (wotc) Pending: | |
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 Vrecknidj Warlord
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 United States
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Kithmaker Commander
 3926 Posts




 | | 07/27/2005 8:31 AM |
| This one is a little dependent on timing of the Psychic Scream, but is pretty good regardless:
Skullsplitter Urthok Mind Flayer Telepath Bladebearer Hobgoblin x2 Snig (+ 3 Skirmishers) Silent Wolf Goblin x2 Dread Guard
Or, this one is pretty straightforward and nasty:
Rakshasa Thaskor Gauth Snig (+ pals) Azer Raider x2 Mongrelfolk
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Dr.Cornelius Warrior
 338 Posts




 | | 07/27/2005 8:35 AM |
| LE Brain Dead Gauth 35 Mind Flayer (Cmd 4) 35 Grim Necromancer (Cmd 2) 00 Cursed Spirit + Skeletal Wolf or Skeletal Minotaur + Zombie (Summon) 39 Gauth 33 Half Elf Hexblade 24 Dire Guard 20 Snig the Axe (Cmd 0) 00 Sniglets x3 06 Goblin Skirmisher x2 05 Blue 03 Mongrelfolk 200 points / 13(15) activations Lower the opponent's saves then stun and paralyze.
Elephants, Tigers & Eyes 41 Rakshasa (Cmd 4) 86 Thaskor 39 Gauth 20 Snig (Cmd 0) 00 Sniglets x3 05 Blue 06 Goblin Skirmisher x2 03 Mongrelfolk 200 points / 11 activations
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 Vrecknidj Warlord
 10445 Posts


 United States
 | | 07/27/2005 8:46 AM |
| Built one of my own . . .
Eye on Urthok Beholder Chraal Urthok Barbarian Mercenary x3 Azer Raider Duergar Warrior Goblin Skirmisher x3 Mongrelfolk
| | Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing; My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
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 Faragdar the Wise Commander
 3523 Posts



 Albuquerque, NM, USA
 | | 07/27/2005 9:06 AM |
| This is actually a pretty solid and basic LG band:
Sword of Heironeous Couatl Skullclan Hunter x2 Warforged Hero Dwarf Warrior x3 Man-at-arms x3 | | "Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish." - Albert Einstein Champion of Myopic Half-Orcs Winner, WBC X | |
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