jgsugden
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Walnut Creek, CA
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 11/03/2005 8:22 PM |
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Originally posted by Black Flame Zealot
Wow, the right side looks like the side to play on. Only 16 squares to a victory area.
I wonder what magma does? I'm certain we shall find out soon enough ...
Any other comments?
No, it is 19 squares to a victory area for both sides. Recount ... you may have the victory area wrong, as it is hard to read on the map.
A few comments:
It is impossible for side B (right side) to get a first turn fireball on the side A start area, even with inspired marshal.
Until we know what magma does, it is hard to figure out how the map will work. If flying creatures can fly over it, we have ou first squeezing situations in the game.
This map is really 3 channels, so it presents more options for charges than prior maps.
Not a lot of hazarous terrain on the map ... | |
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robbdaman
Underboss
2380 Posts
| | 11/03/2005 8:28 PM |
| Actually they're pretty much even on closeness to victory areas if you have fliers or a speed 10 creature any faction should be able to reach the victory area in the first round.
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Black Flame Zealot
Sneak
102 Posts
| | 11/03/2005 8:28 PM |
| Oh, it's hard to read the text for the victory areas. I must've been looking at the wrong area (I was looking at the one on the top of the keep).
Yeah, I noticed the charge lanes. That could be pretty sweet. | |
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 11/03/2005 8:53 PM |
| | Word from Guy Fullerton: Magma is treated just like pits/chasm squares. | |
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Black Flame Zealot
Sneak
102 Posts
| | 11/03/2005 8:53 PM |
| Just checked it out ... it looks like it is 16 squares for B to get to the victory area on the top of the keep. Neon Knight on the WotC boards converted it to CC2 and posted this link:
http://www3.telus.net/NeonKnight/MagmaKeep.JPG
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Liquidburn
Sergeant
944 Posts
| | 11/03/2005 9:00 PM |
| | I am loving this new map. The lava on it looks great. I hope the rest turn out this cool. | |
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 11/03/2005 9:00 PM |
| You are correct about the 16 squares, my error. Interesting ...
More word: You can actually use the squeezing rules on this map (for flyers flying over certain areas of magma between two walls, like just beneath the Magma Keep title of the map) ... | |
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Korhal_IV
Sergeant
852 Posts
| | 11/03/2005 9:33 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden
This map is really 3 channels, so it presents more options for charges than prior maps.
Huh. Will the Royal Guard see play at last? | |
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BunnyPuncher
Sneak
171 Posts
| | 11/03/2005 9:47 PM |
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quote:
Huh. Will the Royal Guard see play at last?
The poor boy has not even been released yet! | |
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Sharn Inquisitor
Underboss
1623 Posts
| | 11/03/2005 10:39 PM |
| | Got Hellspike, looks like the maps for ranged bands/beholder all the way. | | | |
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tomas
Sergeant
531 Posts
Spicer, MN
| | 11/03/2005 10:56 PM |
| | You would think there would be some penalty for flying over magma, similar to moving over spike stones. | |
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md3
Sergeant
702 Posts
| | 11/04/2005 11:46 AM |
| Is there an official errata on Lava? Is it in the DDM handbook?
Could fire immune figures fly over Lava unharmed?
Could magma man walk through lava?
Shouldn't you take damage for standing too close to lava?
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 11/04/2005 12:57 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by md3
Is there an official errata on Lava? Is it in the DDM handbook?
Could fire immune figures fly over Lava unharmed?
Could magma man walk through lava?
Shouldn't you take damage for standing too close to lava?
Guy has said that they are just like pits. No fire damage, no difficult terrain aspects - nothing. All they are is pits. Orange pits. This should be clearly spelled out in the Hellspike materials. | |
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warty_nosed_goblin
Underboss
1384 Posts
| | 11/04/2005 1:00 PM |
| | In that case, whee, more beholder fun! | |
Call me: W.N. Gobo!
originally posted by grim:
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Feathers
Underboss
1140 Posts
| | 11/04/2005 1:06 PM |
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Originally posted by jgsugden
Guy has said that they are just like pits. No fire damage, no difficult terrain aspects - nothing. All they are is pits. Orange pits. This should be clearly spelled out in the Hellspike materials.
That is correct. They are clearly spelled out as pits in the back page that deals with skirmish rules.
The alternate rules for lava are better. Too bad they aren't official. [:(]
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 11/04/2005 2:17 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Feathers
The alternate rules for lava are better. Too bad they aren't official. [:(]
But they'd cause some problems on this map ... those areas were made to be unpassable by land based creatures.
Hey, Feathers - was one of your maps ripped? I'm hearing reports of many, mnay, mnay ripped maps in Hellspike packages ... | |
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 11/04/2005 2:38 PM |
| | Huh. No teleporters or water, yet. I was expecting the rumored teleporters to be on these maps ... I wonder if they'll come on a Dragon map, or if they are set to be released in the WD maps ... | |
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Feathers
Underboss
1140 Posts
| | 11/04/2005 2:53 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by jgsugden
Hey, Feathers - was one of your maps ripped? I'm hearing reports of many, mnay, mnay ripped maps in Hellspike packages ...
Yes, one of my maps was ripped right down the center. It sucks. Very very disappointed. It was the Magma Keep/Mushroom Caverns map. Was yours ripped?
Anyone else have that problem? | |
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robbdaman
Underboss
2380 Posts
| | 11/04/2005 3:31 PM |
| Sounds like the folding machine is tearing up the new maps. Time to replace it. I know my Drow Outpost from Dragon mag was pretty tattered and frayed at some of the foldings. Possibly from the same printing company. That sucks though. I'd take it back and see if you can get another that wasn't ripped. Open the replacement in the store to make sure.
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Chad the DragonLordofAiur
Underboss
1085 Posts
Southeast PA
| | 11/04/2005 3:33 PM |
| | is there an online photo of this map? | |
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 11/04/2005 3:41 PM |
| There is a very small detail picture on the Wizards site of each of the 3 skirmish maps. Not detailed enough to use for skirmish, but it gives you the ideas ...
As for the rip: Apparently they are all ripped. That SUCKS. Is the rip so awkward that it would be visible when laminated? (I have not bought one yet ...) | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 11/04/2005 3:58 PM |
| | They're all ripped? Damn. I guess this means I won't be getting it then. :( | |
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DragonVenom
Sneak
111 Posts
| | 11/04/2005 4:11 PM |
| We don't know for sure if they're all ripped, but we don't yet have a report of any that are not. If anybody has one that is not ripped, a lot of people would be interested to know about it. So far everyone who has commented has a ripped one. [xx(]
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robbdaman
Underboss
2380 Posts
| | 11/04/2005 4:15 PM |
| Seems not all but a significant amount of those shipped have rips. 90% or so having rips is pretty horrible as far as quality of merchandise goes. Your best bet is to return it and get a full refund if they do not have a map that is unripped from their shipment. That way the store can return all the faulty mechandise and get orders for ones that are in good condition. This seriously sucks though considering it was just released and will probably take a month or more for a good shipment to get in.
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Feathers
Underboss
1140 Posts
| | 11/04/2005 4:29 PM |
| That does suck. I don't want to wait another month to use these maps. They are otherwise very cool.
Jgsugden, I'll bring my maps on Sunday to the tournament and you can check it out. The tear is quite significant. Not sure if laminating it would be an issue or not. | |
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chattan
Sergeant
393 Posts
| | 11/04/2005 8:02 PM |
| None of my maps were ripped.
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