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TruNutral88 Sergeant
 522 Posts




 | | 11/12/2005 6:16 PM |
| | recovered topic 11392 | | Champion of Bruenor Battlehammer | |
| TruNutral88 Sergeant
 522 Posts




 | | 11/12/2005 6:16 PM |
| | Just bc i love themed bands i like this band already. I think you need a bigger beater for the mounted drow to hit and run behind though. Consider using the Large Deep Dragon? | | Champion of Bruenor Battlehammer | |
| slayer1 Sergeant
 597 Posts




 | | 11/12/2005 6:16 PM |
| Your band is pretty solid, however, this one might be a tad better and is made entirely of underdark miniatures.
Drow Arachnomancer Mounted Drow Patrol Draegloth Drow Arcane Guard Lolth's Sting x3 Spider of Lolth x2 | | Har 25/80 De 35/60 Ar 43/60 GoL 61/72 Ab 42/60 Dk 43/60 Af 51/60 Ud 49/60 WD 50/60 | |
| dndplaya4eva Sneak
 96 Posts




 | | 11/12/2005 8:37 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by slayer1
Your band is pretty solid, however, this one might be a tad better and is made entirely of underdark miniatures.
Drow Arachnomancer Mounted Drow Patrol Draegloth Drow Arcane Guard Lolth's Sting x3 Spider of Lolth x2
That band is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe sub out a Lolth's Sting and Drow Arcane Guard for anotehr MDP. But thats just my opinion and two cents. | | | |
| ShadowLord XT Commander
 2637 Posts



 Plane of Shadow
 | | 11/12/2005 8:47 PM |
| Here's an ok band I just came up with and ain't doing that bad:
Ryld Argith Large Deep Dragon Lolth's Sting Drow Arcane Guard x2 Drow Rogue
Use the dragon to help use sneak attacks and use the lolth's sting to do the same with ghost step. Ryld can do 20 dmg twice, the rogue can do 15 dmg twice, and with all those bonuses (Ryld gives +2 and the dragon gives +3 to attack that right there is +5 to attack) that ain't even with flanking and charging and flanking and charging at the same time, all that jazz. Hope this helps. | | Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos. Champion of Half-Golems Knight of Golems "This world is made for love and peace" - Trigun "anyway..shadow..you've figured women out. KUDOS." - raye_kino16 | |
| slayer1 Sergeant
 597 Posts




 | | 11/12/2005 9:15 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by ShadowLord XT
Here's an ok band I just came up with and ain't doing that bad:
Ryld Argith Large Deep Dragon Lolth's Sting Drow Arcane Guard x2 Drow Rogue
Use the dragon to help use sneak attacks and use the lolth's sting to do the same with ghost step. Ryld can do 20 dmg twice, the rogue can do 15 dmg twice, and with all those bonuses (Ryld gives +2 and the dragon gives +3 to attack that right there is +5 to attack) that ain't even with flanking and charging and flanking and charging at the same time, all that jazz. Hope this helps.
Against anything immune to sneak attacks, you're pretty much screwed. Ryld is your only decent hitter and he is only decent. For a drow themed band, a draegloth or a couple of MDP are essential in order to have a high enough damage output. IMO, this is a pretty good drow themed band.
Drow Wizard 29 Draegloth 56 MDP x2 54 Drow Arcane Guard x2 25 Drow Fighter 10 199 points, 7 activations
or this actually might be better
Ryld Argith 55 Draegloth 56 Drow Arcane Guard x2 50 MDP 27 Drow WArrior x2 12 200 points, 7 activations
After looking at both bands though, a drow themed band still needs cheaper fodder and a cheaper(~25 points) commander with a decent rating(4). | | Har 25/80 De 35/60 Ar 43/60 GoL 61/72 Ab 42/60 Dk 43/60 Af 51/60 Ud 49/60 WD 50/60 | |
| tomas Sergeant
 531 Posts



 Spicer, MN
 | | 11/12/2005 9:52 PM |
| | So, basically you guys are saying I didn't do too badly with my first constructed? | | Have/Want list: http://maxminis.com/hwlist.asp?user=tomas Reference thread: http://maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6938 Trades Completed(51):Unearthed Arcana, arcabious(x2), Noghri, phrennzy, jgsugden, BigBC, maniacal_mini_monger, cyderakk, Chaotic Good, symbiotesx2, Nixlord, dagonet(x2), Red Ranger, Zaukrie, Thatoneguy, Schooly_D, arbados(x2), scottbis, Thailfi(x2), Chiaroscuro, dumdragon, jedijon, DrX, ckissee, time bandit, the1ring, scallamander, sttmxn, Lance H, qstor, Thor, glumag, Urban Druid, xuthal, jaidenshea, Ghendar, Nurvel, raymo13, ickthegreat, Primarch, WakeXX, kyrin, Crisisman,desiderata, smetzger, Vrecknidj, Frostrune Trades Pending(): BAD TRADES(3):Satsujin Kingyo, Wraith, Yo Hon Email: thompmar@hotmail.com | |
| dndplaya4eva Sneak
 96 Posts




 | | 11/12/2005 9:59 PM |
| | You didnt do bad. But pieces like Drow Arachnomancer dont belong here. Large Deep Dragon and Ryld are perfect pieces. X'endrick sucks so don't use him. | | | |
| Knight of the Round Table Thenameless Warlord
 11730 Posts



 The Fortress of Solitude
 | | 11/12/2005 10:02 PM |
| | I agree with slayer1. Having a Draegloth in there, if you have one, might give you the melee presence you're looking for. | | Over 270 successful online DDM trades. | |
| tomas Sergeant
 531 Posts



 Spicer, MN
 | | 11/12/2005 10:23 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by dndplaya4eva
X'endrick sucks so don't use him.
What about the Xen'drik sucks? I'm very new at this, so this is a serious question. She has 2 melee and 2 ranged attacks, albeit at low damage. She has Conceal 6, Speed 8, AC 20 and Spell Resistance. All of this for 23 points. I didn't think that was a bad package. | | Have/Want list: http://maxminis.com/hwlist.asp?user=tomas Reference thread: http://maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6938 Trades Completed(51):Unearthed Arcana, arcabious(x2), Noghri, phrennzy, jgsugden, BigBC, maniacal_mini_monger, cyderakk, Chaotic Good, symbiotesx2, Nixlord, dagonet(x2), Red Ranger, Zaukrie, Thatoneguy, Schooly_D, arbados(x2), scottbis, Thailfi(x2), Chiaroscuro, dumdragon, jedijon, DrX, ckissee, time bandit, the1ring, scallamander, sttmxn, Lance H, qstor, Thor, glumag, Urban Druid, xuthal, jaidenshea, Ghendar, Nurvel, raymo13, ickthegreat, Primarch, WakeXX, kyrin, Crisisman,desiderata, smetzger, Vrecknidj, Frostrune Trades Pending(): BAD TRADES(3):Satsujin Kingyo, Wraith, Yo Hon Email: thompmar@hotmail.com | |
| slayer1 Sergeant
 597 Posts




 | | 11/12/2005 10:24 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by dndplaya4eva
You didnt do bad. But pieces like Drow Arachnomancer dont belong here. Large Deep Dragon and Ryld are perfect pieces. X'endrick sucks so don't use him.
The LDD shouldn't be used either. Apart from his fantastic breathweapon, he is complete and utter crap. Xen'Drick is actually very well costed, but is somewhat challanged by being in the 20-25 point range.
@Tomas - Your band wasn't bad at all, especially not for a noob to constructed. Another decent drow band is
Draegloth 56 Ryld Argith 55 MDP 27 Drow Arcane Guard 25 Xen'Drick Champion 23 Lolth's Sting x2 14 200 points, 7 activations
One side note, every time I build a drow themed band, I always end up with 7 activations. Weird. | | Har 25/80 De 35/60 Ar 43/60 GoL 61/72 Ab 42/60 Dk 43/60 Af 51/60 Ud 49/60 WD 50/60 | |
| dndplaya4eva Sneak
 96 Posts




 | | 11/12/2005 11:18 PM |
| | I agree the LDD is crap but some figs such as the MDP could use a AB boost. But I like ur band. Xen'drik may have all those good things but isnt a great mid cost beater. If they gave her sneak attack that would have been ok. I would probably use a drow rogue instead. | | | |
| slayer1 Sergeant
 597 Posts




 | | 11/13/2005 12:28 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by dndplaya4eva
I agree the LDD is crap but some figs such as the MDP could use a AB boost. But I like ur band. Xen'drik may have all those good things but isnt a great mid cost beater. If they gave her sneak attack that would have been ok. I would probably use a drow rogue instead.
IMO another midcost beater isn't needed. Also, 10 ranged damage isn't bad. A drow band won't play like orcs. It will have a couple of decent melee threats(draegloth, Ryld), a good utility piece(DAG), an anti-tech/weak commander piece that also serves pretty well as a hitter(at least in this case)(MDP), a decent ranged attacker(XC) and a couple of fodder pieces(Lolth's stings). At least, that is how I imagine a drow band. | | Har 25/80 De 35/60 Ar 43/60 GoL 61/72 Ab 42/60 Dk 43/60 Af 51/60 Ud 49/60 WD 50/60 | |
| ShadowLord XT Commander
 2637 Posts



 Plane of Shadow
 | | 11/13/2005 12:32 AM |
| HEY, the LDD isn't that bad. here's a 100 band that I am yet to try out:
Large Deep Dragon Teifling captain Orc Searfighter Orc warrior x2
Or
Large Deep Dragon Drow Wizard Orc Spearfighter
any large dragon in 100 points should do well by my figuring. | | Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos. Champion of Half-Golems Knight of Golems "This world is made for love and peace" - Trigun "anyway..shadow..you've figured women out. KUDOS." - raye_kino16 | |
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