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11/25/2005 4:23 AM  
recovered topic 11930

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11/25/2005 4:23 AM  
Another Balor of course.

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11/25/2005 8:20 AM  
There are lots of good options

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Balor (epic)
Large Red Dragon
Red Samurai
Tiefling Captain
Burning Skeleton
Cursed Spirit
Orc Warrior x2

The LRD is a better unit in 200-point play, I think, but he's relatively robust in 500-point play. He's a great piece for harassing an opponent's weaker pieces. The Red Samurai has good attacks, even at this level of play. You've got enough undead to thwart a Beholder and the right combos to deal with Gauths.

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11/25/2005 11:22 AM  
what is everyone's view on the Boneclaw to back it up. Seems a decent piece.

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11/25/2005 11:34 AM  
the boneclaw is viewed as a weak piece and there are better choices out there. the bonecalw might be good with a piece that causes attacks of opportunity .

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11/25/2005 12:31 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by wicked cool

the boneclaw is viewed as a weak piece and there are better choices out there. the bonecalw might be good with a piece that causes attacks of opportunity .



Well, good arguements, but I consider him the late-gamer's piece. Melee Reach 3 is nice, and 15 damage is good if you cannot get any other hitters imho. Anyway, just my 2 cents.

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11/25/2005 5:33 PM  
If you compare the Boneclaw to other CE pieces in the same price range, you'll find significantly many pieces that are just as good or better. If you're looking for something that's Large and undead, then it's a reasonable choice (though you'll have to ask yourself if the ZWD can fill the same role in the band for fewer points).

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11/25/2005 10:21 PM  
There aren't any Slapping Hands in CE, are there...?

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11/25/2005 11:38 PM  
Orc Druid has Slapping Hand.
That's as close as it gets, for now.

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11/25/2005 11:49 PM  
The Boneclaw would be better if creatures could make attacks of opportunity against any creatures moving out of squares within their reach, instead of just adjacent squares. This would also make figures like the Chain Devil better...

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11/26/2005 2:50 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by ShadowLord XT

Orc Druid has Slapping Hand.
That's as close as it gets, for now.


Actually the Druid has Snake Swiftness which is better.


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11/26/2005 3:00 AM  
quote:
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Actually the Druid has Snake Swiftness which is better.



Bigby's slapping hand would be better to use with the Boneclaw, though, assuming the target fails its save.

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11/26/2005 3:27 AM  
True. But against lets say Epic Elminster, there won't be any luck in getting a attack of opportunity against him because of the high save. Huge figs are another story. [xx(]


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11/26/2005 11:00 AM  
Again, though, Snake's Swiftness can be more usefull because it allows the Boneclaw to employ his Melee Reach 3, unlike on an attack of opportunity. However, the point in this case is somewhat moot because few (if any) people ever use the Boneclaw.

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11/26/2005 11:01 AM  
I thought long and hard and here is my solution to the question what to run with Epic Baylor:

Baylor and Son

Epic Baylor 326
Baylor 95 421
Zombie White Dragon 37 458
Cultist of the Dragon 29 487 - Minions: 4 X Abyssal Maw
Orc Brute 8 495
Abyssal Maw 5 500

Tell me what you think.

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11/26/2005 11:04 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by dndplaya4eva

quote:
Originally posted by ShadowLord XT

Orc Druid has Slapping Hand.
That's as close as it gets, for now.


Actually the Druid has Snake Swiftness which is better.



Woops I meant to post snake's swiftness.

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