MackeyJ Underboss
 1414 Posts




 | | 11/25/2005 4:23 AM |
| | recovered topic 11930 | | John
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MackeyJ Underboss
 1414 Posts




 | | 11/25/2005 4:23 AM |
| Another Balor of course.
You could call the warband "Like Father like son" | | John
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 Vrecknidj Warlord
 10445 Posts


 United States
 | | 11/25/2005 8:20 AM |
| There are lots of good options
The Flames of the Abyss Balor (epic) Large Red Dragon Red Samurai Tiefling Captain Burning Skeleton Cursed Spirit Orc Warrior x2
The LRD is a better unit in 200-point play, I think, but he's relatively robust in 500-point play. He's a great piece for harassing an opponent's weaker pieces. The Red Samurai has good attacks, even at this level of play. You've got enough undead to thwart a Beholder and the right combos to deal with Gauths.
Dave | | Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing; My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
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orcmonk220 Underboss
 1608 Posts




 | | 11/25/2005 11:22 AM |
| | what is everyone's view on the Boneclaw to back it up. Seems a decent piece. | | My Trading Thread | |
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wicked cool Underboss
 2129 Posts




 | | 11/25/2005 11:34 AM |
| | the boneclaw is viewed as a weak piece and there are better choices out there. the bonecalw might be good with a piece that causes attacks of opportunity . | | The ROCK layeth the smacketh down. Long live Farscape Vindicated-CHAMPION of the INTELLECT DEVOURER i will change my avatar when martin completes dances with dragons | |
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orcmonk220 Underboss
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 | | 11/25/2005 12:31 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by wicked cool
the boneclaw is viewed as a weak piece and there are better choices out there. the bonecalw might be good with a piece that causes attacks of opportunity .
Well, good arguements, but I consider him the late-gamer's piece. Melee Reach 3 is nice, and 15 damage is good if you cannot get any other hitters imho. Anyway, just my 2 cents. | | My Trading Thread | |
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 Vrecknidj Warlord
 10445 Posts


 United States
 | | 11/25/2005 5:33 PM |
| If you compare the Boneclaw to other CE pieces in the same price range, you'll find significantly many pieces that are just as good or better. If you're looking for something that's Large and undead, then it's a reasonable choice (though you'll have to ask yourself if the ZWD can fill the same role in the band for fewer points).
Dave | | Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing; My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
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Urban Druid Warrior
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 | | 11/25/2005 10:21 PM |
| | There aren't any Slapping Hands in CE, are there...? | | *This post was recorded before a live studio audience* | |
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ShadowLord XT Commander
 2637 Posts



 Plane of Shadow
 | | 11/25/2005 11:38 PM |
| Orc Druid has Slapping Hand. That's as close as it gets, for now. | | Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos. Champion of Half-Golems Knight of Golems "This world is made for love and peace" - Trigun "anyway..shadow..you've figured women out. KUDOS." - raye_kino16 | |
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hardinjmm Sergeant
 573 Posts



 Madison, WI
 | | 11/25/2005 11:49 PM |
| The Boneclaw would be better if creatures could make attacks of opportunity against any creatures moving out of squares within their reach, instead of just adjacent squares. This would also make figures like the Chain Devil better...
Cheers, Jon | | | |
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dndplaya4eva Sneak
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 | | 11/26/2005 2:50 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by ShadowLord XT
Orc Druid has Slapping Hand. That's as close as it gets, for now.
Actually the Druid has Snake Swiftness which is better. | | | |
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Pauper Sergeant
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 | | 11/26/2005 3:00 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by dndplaya4eva
Actually the Druid has Snake Swiftness which is better.
Bigby's slapping hand would be better to use with the Boneclaw, though, assuming the target fails its save.
-- Pauper | | Champion of the War Wizard of Cormyr | |
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dndplaya4eva Sneak
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 | | 11/26/2005 3:27 AM |
| | True. But against lets say Epic Elminster, there won't be any luck in getting a attack of opportunity against him because of the high save. Huge figs are another story. [xx(] | | | |
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hardinjmm Sergeant
 573 Posts



 Madison, WI
 | | 11/26/2005 11:00 AM |
| Again, though, Snake's Swiftness can be more usefull because it allows the Boneclaw to employ his Melee Reach 3, unlike on an attack of opportunity. However, the point in this case is somewhat moot because few (if any) people ever use the Boneclaw.
Cheers, Jon | | | |
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Captain_Duergar Skirmisher
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 | | 11/26/2005 11:01 AM |
| I thought long and hard and here is my solution to the question what to run with Epic Baylor:
Baylor and Son Epic Baylor 326 Baylor 95 421 Zombie White Dragon 37 458 Cultist of the Dragon 29 487 - Minions: 4 X Abyssal Maw Orc Brute 8 495 Abyssal Maw 5 500
Tell me what you think. | | Determination equals Power | |
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ShadowLord XT Commander
 2637 Posts



 Plane of Shadow
 | | 11/26/2005 11:04 AM |
| quote: Originally posted by dndplaya4eva
quote: Originally posted by ShadowLord XT
Orc Druid has Slapping Hand. That's as close as it gets, for now.
Actually the Druid has Snake Swiftness which is better.
Woops I meant to post snake's swiftness. | | Disipline is the only way to overcome chaos. Champion of Half-Golems Knight of Golems "This world is made for love and peace" - Trigun "anyway..shadow..you've figured women out. KUDOS." - raye_kino16 | |
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