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md3
Sergeant
702 Posts
    
 | | 12/20/2005 11:34 PM |
| I need to make 12 Warbands that aren't necessarily Tier 1 They need to be competitive (DCI legal). We play friendly, most of the time, but we still want our warbands to have a chance.
The warbands will be used as a pool of warbands that I will bring to lend to new players and players who need to borrow a warband.
I have every figure from the sets Harbinger up to Underdark, but not many repeat rares.
I would like the top submissions to have the following restrictions:
200 points, 8 figure limit
No duplicate rare figure
No more than 2 of any common or uncommon figure
I would hope to find 3 warbands from each faction, but exceptions might be made.
If 11 people borrow warbands I'll get stuck with the last 1, so build them wisely.
Thanks,
md3
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ChristopherGroves
Warlord
6093 Posts
| | 12/21/2005 12:03 AM |
| Hmmm ...
Well, given your constraints this will be VERY tough. How about I don't touch the commons and let you fill out as appropraite ... but I'll give you a framework to use. Some of the key uncommons (Chraal, Duergar, Justice Archons, Red Samurai) would be best served in multiples ... as would some (specifically the chaotic) rares.
LG
Couatl, Marut, 2x JA, Cleric of Yondalla
LSD, Cleric of Dol Arrah, Mialee, Standardbearer
Young Master, Gith Monk x2 ... coming up short here ... are you sure you don't have more than 2 Gith Monks?
CG
You're kinda stuck here unless you drop a tier down from the other factions / bands.
Marshal, FB, Goliath, Rikka, Wizard Tactician, Graycloak/Stalker/Satyr
Archmage, Graycloak/Stalker
LE
Dark Naga, Gauth, Helmed Horror, Duergar x2
Beholder, Soth, fodder
Orog, Chraal x2, Efreeti (or Blackguard)
CE
Eye, Champ, Tiefling, Large Red Dragon
Ryld, Red Sam x2, Ravager
Lich, Death Slaad, Ravager or Zombie White
Not on the list but could be ... these are more spoiler builds
Greenfang as a CG commander - but this is not top tier
Moon Elf as a CG commander
More than one Goliath and FB
Orc Wolf Shaman + beasties
Red Wizard, Cultist and then a mix of other spellcasters is always an option
Rakshasa + 4 Duergar (or Urthok, Snig +4x Duergar)
What's really hurting you is the "no more than 2 commons" bit. That's going to be a bigger pain than even the lack of multiple of the key uncommons. Do you really only have 2 of each common/uncommon or do you have more of 2 for some of the significant ones?
If someone could help take those to the next level of detail, I'd appreciate it. | |
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Carlson
Sneak
84 Posts
| | 12/21/2005 12:03 AM |
| Let's see... how bout:
Greenfang Druid (50) - legion's magic fang for animals
Dire Bear x2 (88) - high HP, good attack for decent damage
Spirit Folk Fighter x2 (38) - good attack/damage under Greenfang
Timber Wolf x2 (10) - quick tile grabbers
Aramil, Adventurer (13) - magic missle and ray of enfeeblement
199 points, 8 activations | |
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Faragdar the Wise
Commander
3523 Posts
Albuquerque, NM, USA
| | 12/21/2005 12:51 AM |
| 64 Lich Necromancer
56 Clay Golem
44 Eye of Gruumsh
11 Cursed Spirit
09 Wolf Skeleton
07 Troglodyte
06 Kenku Sneak
03 Orc Warrior
(variant on the band I used to qualify for nationals)
42 Couatl
81 Stone Giant
24 Cleric of Order
32 Justice Archon
12 Healer
06 Mialee
03 Man-at-arms
or
42 Couatl
81 Stone Giant
14 Cleric of Yondalla
32 Justice Archon
31 Rikka, Angelic Avenger
(latter has fewer activations and more trouble with saves, but it has more beef)
42 Couatl
96 Mounted Paladin
45 Cleric of Dol Arrah
10 Caravan Guard x2
04 Hill Dwarf Warrior
03 Man-at-arms
(tough one to use well, I think)
27 Orc Druid
21 Tiefling Captain
39 Orc Champion
40 Red Samurai
38 Ogre Ravager
28 Grimlock Barbarian
07 Orc Savage
(update of an old-school quad beater band)
41 Rakshasa
61 Iron Golem
45 Helmed Horror
33 Duergar Champion
10 Blue x2
09 Wolf Skeleton
(eh, I don't like the fodder selection all that much, but my brain froze up) | |
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md3
Sergeant
702 Posts
| | 12/21/2005 2:14 AM |
| Christopher,
I have plenty of multiple uncommons/commons the idea is that I don't want to use more than 2 of any... variety is the spice...
Technically, if someone submits a warband like:
Eye of Gruumsh, 2 Orc Champions, 5 Orc Warriors
then another person submits:
Ryld, 2 Red Sams, 5 Orc Warriors
If I then choose to bring these two warbands to represent CE, I don't want to get stuck with physically having only 9 Orc Warriors and the possibility of not being able to use both bands. | |
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Wayne
Underboss
1371 Posts
| | 12/21/2005 3:08 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Carlson
Let's see... how bout:
Greenfang Druid (50) - legion's magic fang for animals
Dire Bear x2 (88) - high HP, good attack for decent damage
Spirit Folk Fighter x2 (38) - good attack/damage under Greenfang
Timber Wolf x2 (10) - quick tile grabbers
Aramil, Adventurer (13) - magic missle and ray of enfeeblement
199 points, 8 activations
Greenfang Druid, Dire Bear x2, Celestial Pegasus, Graycloak x2, Timberwolf x2 (minions). 200 points, 8 activations. Everything benefits from the legion's magic fang and the Greenfang Druid's commander effect.
This is not top tier, but I've always done very well with it, and it's a helluva lot of fun to play. Dire Bears are fun toys! | |
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Ack
Underboss
1476 Posts
| | 12/21/2005 10:37 AM |
| thats a pretty great list that Chris came up with.
As a 3rd CG band - Valenar, HEBI, 2x Elf Stalker, 2x Longstrider Ranger, Healer, Barb Merc.
Its not awesome but its a pretty solid ranged band with enough beef to keep shooting for a while. | |
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Aramus
Warrior
181 Posts
| | 12/21/2005 10:56 AM |
| Themed bands could also be fun
CE
42 DCoL
56 Draegoloth
29 Drow wizard
25 DAG
25 DAG
9 Spider of lloth
7 Sting of Lloth
7 Sting of lloth
200 pts 8 activations, wiz can MW Dragoloth if needed. Plus everything has conceal a wonderfully potential irritant for an opponent | |
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ChristopherGroves
Warlord
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Faragdar the Wise
Commander
3523 Posts
Albuquerque, NM, USA
| | 12/21/2005 5:43 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Aramus
42 DCoL
56 Draegoloth
29 Drow wizard
25 DAG
25 DAG
9 Spider of lloth
7 Sting of Lloth
7 Sting of lloth
I like, but since DCoL can do MW, too, (and they have non-stackable commander effects), I'd probably drop the Drow Wizard for a Mounted Drow Patrol--he's a good flanker. Then you could always switch one Lolth's Sting to another Spider of Lolth. | |
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Ack
Underboss
1476 Posts
| | 12/22/2005 1:40 PM |
| quote:
Take out a Longstrider for a Pegasus for a large-base blocker, one Stalker for a Graycloak, Healer for Aramil and I'd seriously consider it. It would do about as good as you could expect any other ranged band to do.
Wayne already used the Pegasus and there were like 5 graycloaks already mentioned... so I kept within the rules as described. but yes, was I running this I would use a pegasus..
But the Longstrider is surprisingly powerful and disgustingly mobile. Is there anywhere on a map that a GMA'd Longstrider cant reach? he can even take the long way around and get in well behind the lines and base the squishy targets back there. | |
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Faragdar the Wise
Commander
3523 Posts
Albuquerque, NM, USA
| | 12/22/2005 2:38 PM |
| Hey, this is a perfect format for all-unique bands:
87 Drizzt
52 Rask
33 Guenwyvar
18 Ember
06 Devis
04 Lidda
for max activations, drop Ember for Ialdabode, Ragnara and Mialee.
or LG:
46 Alusair Obarskyr
77 Ulmo, Lightbringer
20 Regdar, Adventurer
33 Guenwyvar
18 Nebin
06 Mialee
Again, you could max activations with Ialdabode, Ragnara and Devis instead of Nebin.
Okay, maybe these aren't the most competitive, but they aren't horrible. Guenwyvar, especially, is an interesting piece when commanded by Drizzt or Alusair, but I think all these uniques have a place in extremely competitive bands. | |
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Faragdar the Wise
Commander
3523 Posts
Albuquerque, NM, USA
| | 12/22/2005 2:44 PM |
| Ack, how could I forget Rikka and Aramil? In the previous post, it might be worth dropping an 18 point unique for Aramil and Ialdabode, especially with Drizzt.
55 Ryld Argith
52 Rask, Half-orc Chainfighter
31 Rikka, Angelic Avenger
18 Nebin
16 Krusk
13 Aramil
09 Lidda, Adventurer
06 Devis
Eh, not so great. Now I'm probably pushing it. | |
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Fearfrost
Sergeant
518 Posts
| | 12/22/2005 5:11 PM |
| One I have had fun with
Thri-Kreen Barb 55
Frenzied Ber 52
Longstrider 34
Insp Marshall 29
Greycloak 15
wolf 00
Mialee 6
Wild elf raider 6
Xeph warrior 3
200pts even 9 activations major speed disruptive could cause new players some trouble but its not too hard to overcome. | |
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Ack
Underboss
1476 Posts
| | 12/23/2005 6:55 PM |
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Ack, how could I forget Rikka and Aramil?
Im not sure, but you did. Thanks for asking.. Im glad my opinion is so highly regarded.
Maybe Rikka with Drizzt and Rask. there some meat on them thar bones.
PS: I think Im Hysterical! | |
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Faragdar the Wise
Commander
3523 Posts
Albuquerque, NM, USA
| | 12/24/2005 1:53 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Ack
quote:
Ack, how could I forget Rikka and Aramil?
Im not sure, but you did. Thanks for asking..
Thanks. That was a good laugh. [:D] | |
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Crescent Hawk
Sergeant
828 Posts
| | 12/24/2005 11:45 AM |
| Trying to capitalize on the Warpriests CE:
Warpriest of Hextor
Chraal x2
Grell x 2
Bladebearer Hobgoblin
Githzerai
I couldn't find a really decent 5 point figure and am in a hurry so the last one may change. :)
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CorneilleLoiseau
Sergeant
402 Posts
Qc, Canada
| | 12/24/2005 12:19 PM |
| Crescent Hawk Posted - 12/24/2005 : 11:45:50 AM
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Trying to capitalize on the Warpriests CE:
Warpriest of Hextor
Chraal x2
Grell x 2
Bladebearer Hobgoblin
Githzerai
I couldn't find a really decent 5 point figure and am in a hurry so the last one may change. :)
Just use the azer raider. Not good for the immunity but better than gith. | |
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Crescent Hawk
Sergeant
828 Posts
| | 12/24/2005 12:38 PM |
| | I agree, I was just looking for something different. :) | |
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