The Defenestrator AesophDarkfable Warlord
 5628 Posts




 | | 01/28/2006 5:21 PM |
| Would you use the Mauler from what we know in a CE warband:
What we know: Cost 26 HP 55 (Dragon magazine has this) +11(15) AC 18 Speed 8
We know everything for sure other than the speed, the speed is a guess since hes a barb
Now I think that is for sure the beefiest common we have seen yet. So design a band with that in mind that makes best use of that. And the other question is would you? With the ole EoG this guy might find a home, just want to see what you think. | | Im out- find me on Hordelings if you want to chat. | |
|
TruNutral88 Sergeant
 522 Posts




 | | 01/28/2006 5:23 PM |
| | Yeah i think he's nice for his cost. Maybe should have done 20 dmg but i dunno, look pretty cool. | | Champion of Bruenor Battlehammer | |
|
Luisjoey Underboss
 1704 Posts



 Caracas Venezuela
 | | 01/28/2006 5:27 PM |
| | Decent cost to be common... what we need is to see his CFX... he is one commander don´t he? | | Knight of the Quori Champion of King Kaius III of Karrnath
Purple Knight of Venezuela  Venezuelan Site For D&D minis Calabozo Criollo Venezuela Venezuelan Site for SW minis VeneMinis.com | |
|
The Defenestrator AesophDarkfable Warlord
 5628 Posts




 | | 01/28/2006 5:41 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Luisjoey
Decent cost to be common... what we need is to see his CFX... he is one commander don´t he?
No he isn't, we thought they were at first, but they are commons that are locked in the starter boxes to make the game easier to learn for newbs. | | Im out- find me on Hordelings if you want to chat. | |
|
Aravis Underboss
 1155 Posts




 | | 01/28/2006 6:10 PM |
| | I think the Drow Arcane Guard would be a better buy for the 25+- pt range. It adds some nice Tech and the great Empowered Burning Hands. Plus the can hit at Reach with Conceal 11. I dont think we will be seeing him with much play. | | Welcome to Eternal Crack... "Corn is no place for a mighty warrior!" Champion of the Frost Salamander | |
|
scruffydude7 Underboss
 1196 Posts



 Rock Hill, SC
 | | 01/28/2006 6:23 PM |
| I like those stats. Indeed, maybe with the Eye of Gruumsh it will see some play. That would be pretty beefy. 18 AC is unusual in CE, especially on things that can do a bit of damage.
What I like about this is that the Wood Elf Ranger should be able to take him on. Hopefully he'll be a pretty beefy common as well. I've been waiting for a more cost efficient CG mini in the 20-25 point range. | | Champion of the Revenant Knight of the Elf Duskblade Complete Trades: Oni, Kidkach, Melrune, callidusx3 | |
|
Luisjoey Underboss
 1704 Posts



 Caracas Venezuela
 | | 01/29/2006 6:00 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by AesophDarkfable
quote: Originally posted by Luisjoey
Decent cost to be common... what we need is to see his CFX... he is one commander don´t he?
No he isn't, we thought they were at first, but they are commons that are locked in the starter boxes to make the game easier to learn for newbs.
Thank you friend to reveal me that, i was thinking that mauler and the elf were both commanders so people could learn with the starter set, you need two booster to make sure you have 2 commanders for 2 peoples.
About the mauler, i like him a lot, maybe common and uncommon orc warbands could be now more possible, he have excellent AC and i think orc needs a CFX that improves their AC.
| | Knight of the Quori Champion of King Kaius III of Karrnath
Purple Knight of Venezuela  Venezuelan Site For D&D minis Calabozo Criollo Venezuela Venezuelan Site for SW minis VeneMinis.com | |
|
 Vrecknidj Warlord
 10445 Posts


 United States
 | |
Lord_rock Underboss
 2019 Posts



 Portland OR
 | | 01/31/2006 1:24 AM |
| | do we have these stats confirmed??? i remember somthing about how he's not raging yet from the preview...i would think that would point out a special ability of some sort...ac 18 seems pretty high for a barbarian...doesn't feel like a good piece as is...maybe with whatever ability he has from "not raging yet" will make him worthwhile... | | Rock Bottom Pricing: Arcane Archer 30, Centaur Hero 67, Human Cleric of Bane 25, Gold Champion 34, Death Knight 52, Goblin Blackblade 9, Silentwolf Goblin 7, Orc Raider 10, Dwarf axefighter 9, Healer 9, Thaskor 65, Aspect of Demogorgon 71, Ogre 9, Fire Giant 79, Human Wanderer 7, Drunken Master 18, Barghest 12, Longstider Barbarian 27, Longtooth Barbarian 22, Frost Giant 76, Ravenous Vampire 42, Large Earth Elemental: priceless | |
|
Darthrau Underboss
 2233 Posts




 | | 01/31/2006 8:45 AM |
| | I think that's a nice piece for CE. Not including the earlier under vosted minis of course. | | Champion of Jarlaxle Sets: Star Wars Year one complete,44/60 Champions of the Force,0/60 Bounty Hunters | |
|
 Wrackspawn ChristopherGroves Warlord
 6093 Posts




 | |
Aesnath Underboss
 1358 Posts



 Augusta, GA
 | | 01/31/2006 12:11 PM |
| I don't know, 26 points, for a potential 15 damage every round doesn't seem like too great a deal to me. Sure, his hp are pretty good, but not great for his cost. For me to use him at this point, he'd need to be fearless, have a speed of 10, or something else that makes him better than the much cheaper "hey, look, I deal 15 damage a swing" orc fodder lying around (orc savage, brute, and bezerker come to mind).
On another note, why, oh why, did they decide to have two set critters in a minis starter and NOT have them be commanders? When I started playing minis, the "well I didn't draw a commander yet" issue was a real problem. I had plenty of orcs by the time I purchased my third harbinger box, but no commander. I'm guessing they have a set scenerio that involves only those two units in order to help teach the rules. If that is the case, then why not have them be commanders as well? | | **Note: Unless otherwise stated all my minis are unbagged** My reference thread is at: http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12765 Graduate school is swollowing my soul!!!! Champion of the Raumathari Battlemage!
| |
|
elder_basilisk Sergeant
 410 Posts




 | | 01/31/2006 2:34 PM |
| | I don't think I can see myself choosing him over a grimlock barbarian in constructed--however, in sealed or draft, I suspect he'd prove to be a very solid piece. | | | |
|
IanB Commander
 3112 Posts




 | | 01/31/2006 2:42 PM |
| Pretty iffy if you ask me. Doesn't compare very well to, say, the half-ogre barbarian, who hits harder and more accurately, has more HPs, has melee reach, and basically only loses out on AC.
I kinda feel like there must be something more to it than we've heard. Maybe it has a relatively high save. | | Anson on WotC boards | |
|
Orion72 Underboss
 1917 Posts



 | | 01/31/2006 2:46 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Aesnath
On another note, why, oh why, did they decide to have two set critters in a minis starter and NOT have them be commanders? When I started playing minis, the "well I didn't draw a commander yet" issue was a real problem. I had plenty of orcs by the time I purchased my third harbinger box, but no commander. I'm guessing they have a set scenerio that involves only those two units in order to help teach the rules. If that is the case, then why not have them be commanders as well?
I'm pretty sure that we are guaranteed to get a Commander in each starter IN ADDITION TO the Elf and Orc. I like that arrangement better, since it allows for more variety in Sealed. | | | |
|
Knight of the Round Table Thenameless Warlord
 11727 Posts



 The Fortress of Solitude
 | | 02/01/2006 3:37 AM |
| | In the same price range I prefer both the Grimlock Barbarian (blindsight helps a lot against many good pieces) and the Troll Slasher. With the gravitation towards lower damage lawful units, the TS's regeneration helps a bit more than it did against Orc Champions and Frenzied Berserkers. Gotta pray that you don't face a Gauth though. | | Over 270 successful online DDM trades. | |
|