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02/06/2006 10:01 PM  
My LFGS is running a 100 point, no piece over 20 points tournament on Thurday here is what I am considering running, please comment:

Cleric of Yondalla x1
Gold Dwarf Soldier x3
Halfling Wizard x1 (added thru CoY warband building)
Eberk, Adventurer x1
=100 points 6 activations

or

Cleric of Yondalla x1
Gold Dwarf Soldier x2
Halfling Wizard x2 (added thru CoY warband building)
Aramil, Adventurer x1
=99 points 6 activations

let me know what you think.

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02/06/2006 10:30 PM  
I'd go with the second one but drop a Halfling Wizard for another Gold Dwarf. They're tough and do a lot of damage. One Halfling Wizard and Aramil should be plenty.

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02/06/2006 11:06 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by robbdaman

I'd go with the second one but drop a Halfling Wizard for another Gold Dwarf. They're tough and do a lot of damage. One Halfling Wizard and Aramil should be plenty.

R~



That would be the same as the first band but swapping Eberk.[:p]

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02/06/2006 11:13 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Gunthar

quote:
Originally posted by robbdaman

I'd go with the second one but drop a Halfling Wizard for another Gold Dwarf. They're tough and do a lot of damage. One Halfling Wizard and Aramil should be plenty.

R~



That would be the same as the first band but swapping Eberk.[:p]



What a cool format. Regdar would probably get dusted off......hmmmm....Regdar and uniques.....Stonchildren....Dwarf Phalanx Fighters guarding Halfling Wizards.....

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02/06/2006 11:21 PM  
I built a band with Regdar and all the uniques, in today's game they just don't stand a chance. I will probably drop eberk for Aramil and add a MAA for the leftover 3 pts. I will probably end up facing my own band though, my 10 year old plays in the tourneys as well an alot of times wants to run the same band that I do. Makes me have to get dupes of alot of rares, not that I mind that.[:p]

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02/06/2006 11:34 PM  
I'd go with the 1st warband you have there. I think Eberk's spells would ultimately be more useful that Aramil's when facing other 20 point or other minis.

Sounds like a fun format. [:)]

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02/07/2006 12:37 AM  
How many viable commanders are there for such as format? I can only think of four; drow sergeant, redgar adventurer, snig the axe and cleric of Yondalla. Are there any others?

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02/07/2006 1:10 AM  
Maybe a Kobold band with Dual Kobold Sorcerers . . . that might be interesting

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02/07/2006 1:19 AM  
Kobolds 'a' plenty
Kobold Sorc 20
Kobold Sorc 20
Kobold Champ 11
Kobold Champ 11
Kobold Champ 11
Kobold Champ 11
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobolder Miner 3

99 Points - 9 Activations
I like the theme. Plus, I have a soft spot for Kobolds [they're right behind Orcs and Goblins for my cute-and-fuzzy-creature list]
Is this 8 Figure Limit? If so, you may have to do some swapping . . .

8 Figure Limit
Kobold Pepper
Kobold Sorc 20
Kobold Sorc 20
Kobold Sorc 20
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobold Champ 11

95 Points - 8 Activations - Lots of Auto Damage
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02/07/2006 5:24 AM  
Wow. Just...wow. CG is in big trouble in that format. Literally CG's only option is Regdar, who's pretty weak in this setup in general. I don't envy whoever takes on the task of building a band around him without using Rikka or similar. Maybe War Drums will offer CG a few 10-19 point commanders for CG. Commander 1s and 0s for all I care, but the option should be there.

EDIT: To comment on the band itself, I would argue Aramil is every bit as valuable in this format as in any other. Reason: Cheap CE beaters. Abyssal Maw, most Orcs, etc. Aramil can get his Nerf Ray in on them and make a huge difference in this format. He fills a role nobody else can do well in this format, as Ethereal Filchers would be 10% of your warband if you used them -- and they're not LG anyway.

May I make a suggestion? Consider running the second Warband (the double Halfling Wizard one), but replace the second Halfling Wizard with a Warforged Fighter. Adamantine Laced 5 is a big deal in this sort of game. With the extra points (4 total) you can fit in a Hill Dwarf Warrior or similar.

The Medium Earth Elemental could also be a strong choice in 100/8 with 20 points maximum, and the Celestial Dire Badger is worth considering too; lots of resistances, good HP, acceptable melee power. Low AC hurts, but not a huge deal.

3 mages out of 6 activations is probably too much, while Aramil + Halfling Wizard would be just right with 3 melee figures and 1 commander (the CoY). It's good balance.

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02/07/2006 8:48 AM  
Go for my favorite band that I've always wanted to try:

Ochre Jelly x5
Grick

And there's a 200 point variant under old rules:

Ochre Jelly x10
Grick x2

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02/07/2006 10:35 AM  
quote:
Originally posted by PIGSNOT

Kobolds 'a' plenty
Kobold Sorc 20
Kobold Sorc 20
Kobold Champ 11
Kobold Champ 11
Kobold Champ 11
Kobold Champ 11
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobolder Miner 3

99 Points - 9 Activations
I like the theme. Plus, I have a soft spot for Kobolds [they're right behind Orcs and Goblins for my cute-and-fuzzy-creature list]
Is this 8 Figure Limit? If so, you may have to do some swapping . . .

8 Figure Limit
Kobold Pepper
Kobold Sorc 20
Kobold Sorc 20
Kobold Sorc 20
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobold Champ 11

95 Points - 8 Activations - Lots of Auto Damage
Eli



If you're gonna do that you need snig to boost the small guys to 10 damage.

Some combination of WFF/aramil/earth shujenga would work well too methinks.


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02/07/2006 2:16 PM  
quote:
Originally posted by Richard II

quote:
Originally posted by PIGSNOT

Kobolds 'a' plenty
Kobold Sorc 20
Kobold Sorc 20
Kobold Champ 11
Kobold Champ 11
Kobold Champ 11
Kobold Champ 11
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobolder Miner 3

99 Points - 9 Activations
I like the theme. Plus, I have a soft spot for Kobolds [they're right behind Orcs and Goblins for my cute-and-fuzzy-creature list]
Is this 8 Figure Limit? If so, you may have to do some swapping . . .

8 Figure Limit
Kobold Pepper
Kobold Sorc 20
Kobold Sorc 20
Kobold Sorc 20
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobold Soldier 6
Kobold Champ 11

95 Points - 8 Activations - Lots of Auto Damage
Eli



If you're gonna do that you need snig to boost the small guys to 10 damage.

Some combination of WFF/aramil/earth shujenga would work well too methinks.



I know . . . but I was trying to stick with a strictly Kobold theme
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02/08/2006 9:02 AM  
Thanks for all the input guys. This is what I have decided to go with:

Cleric of Yondalla x1
Gold Dwarf Soldier x3
Halfling Wizard x1 (added thru CoY warband building)
Aramil, Adventurer x1
Man at Arms x1
=100 points 7 activations

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02/09/2006 11:40 PM  
Well I went 4-0 and took a draw in the finals with the last person I had faced, there were some interesting match-ups. My hardest battle came when I had to face my son with the same exact army. He had me on points till I rolled crits on 2 of his Gold Dwarfs, he was not a happy camper. All was well when our organizer handed everyone an Epic Mordy card, he loves that figure and went nuts.

Thanks again for all the input.

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