elfinboots
Skirmisher
42 Posts
    
Washington State
 | | 03/20/2006 12:56 AM |
| With a choice of Any faction, it seems to me that Gulgar should be a good fit somewhere. Which faction needs a large monster with great AC high hit points plus DR, Reach and powerfull charge plus two good attacks at 15 and a pair of ranged attacks as well?
I just think he must be a good value if put in the right group.
not CE since there are plenty of better beaters. maybe CG? | | | |
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Q
Skirmisher
7 Posts
| | 03/20/2006 1:48 AM |
| | Just for fun you could try using him as part of a multiple Steelheart Archer and Nentyar Hunter warband.ΖD] | |
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Low Key
Underboss
1231 Posts
| | 03/20/2006 2:53 AM |
| | I'd say LG, since they lack a decent beater around the 50p area. Not to mention its the faction that benefits the most from the ranged damage, potentially forcing the enemy to come closer. | |
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True_Blue
Underboss
2386 Posts
| | 03/20/2006 3:19 AM |
| | I also want to try him out somewhere. I think LG would be a great fit for him. With LE, you'd probably want to use a Helmed Horror more often. In CE, you already have plenty of beaters. LG and CG are probably the better choices, depending on what you want to do. With some more sonic being seen, you might see this guy used more. | |
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elder_basilisk
Sergeant
410 Posts
| | 03/20/2006 10:25 AM |
| I don't know. In that arena, it's competing with the Justicator, Slayer of Domiel, and the Purple Dragon Knight (ignoring his commander rating for the moment, he's not too far off the Gulgar). For the most part, I'd rather have the extra speed and attack bonus (and magic damage) of the justicator or the marked target and evade damage of the slayer than what the gulgar brings to the table.
In CG at least, it's a decent blocker for a Nentyar band; its high level makes it almost a decent gamble to stay on the board and its ranged attack allows it to benefit from the Nentyar's Cfx. On the other hand, it's competing with frenzied beserkers and wemic barbarians (if you want the large base for blocking) so I don't think it's a gimme and the Nentyar hunter band is hardly demonstrated tier 1 material either.
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Originally posted by Low Key
I'd say LG, since they lack a decent beater around the 50p area. Not to mention its the faction that benefits the most from the ranged damage, potentially forcing the enemy to come closer.
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orcdoubleax
Sergeant
694 Posts
| | 03/20/2006 10:40 AM |
| I think he could benfit from the fly 8 of the mephling, but if your playing CG there are better choices just over 50 points.
If you use the coutal to bring the mephling into LG that getting expensive and at that piont I might just go for the gold champion. | |
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Newtoncain
Commander
2985 Posts
Land of 10,000 taxes
| | 03/20/2006 10:47 AM |
| I think its attack bonus (especially for ranged) is just too low to use @ its point cost (49?).
LG-Gith monk 14 pts cheaper
LE-Helmed horror
CG-FB
CE-Blue slaad is even better | |
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Chad the DragonLordofAiur
Underboss
1085 Posts
Southeast PA
| | 03/20/2006 11:07 AM |
| I think he fits best in the circular file. There are better choices in that point range for every faction.
LG - Gith Monks, Justice Archon
CG - Frenzied Berserker
LE - Helmed Horror, Duergar Champion, Zakya Rakshasa
CE - Orc Champ, Eye of Gruumsh, Red Samuari | |
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djtool
Sergeant
584 Posts
Crystal MN, USA
| | 03/20/2006 12:36 PM |
| i'm gonna say CG as a meta-piece
so your mini-core is
gulgar - for maruts
cele peg - for HH's
probably aramil
then go from there
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jgsugden
Commander
4320 Posts
Walnut Creek, CA
| | 03/20/2006 12:49 PM |
| Uhhhh ... the back of my shelves?
Seriously: I can't find a tier 1 (competitive) or 2 (best that it can be for the theory of the band, but can't beat the best bandsout there) situation in which he is a sensible piece. | |
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Gunthar
Commander
2938 Posts
| | 03/20/2006 1:54 PM |
| | In CG when you are already planning on using a Mephling Pyromancer. They go together, but you can't use both to make the concept of just the one work. | |
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Sulaco
Underboss
1605 Posts
| | 03/20/2006 4:15 PM |
| Q: Where does the Gulgar fit best?
A: 
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psistef
Underboss
1572 Posts
| | 03/20/2006 7:14 PM |
| I've had some fun using him as a blocker for the Arcane Ballista.
He's quite sturdy, and you can have him hang back to bodyguard the thing while still contributing via ranged attack. | |
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Warlord
11768 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 03/20/2006 7:51 PM |
| | Sulaco, that's nasty. Just nasty. | |
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frogrodeo
Sergeant
706 Posts
| | 03/20/2006 11:33 PM |
| | The Gulgar does look a bit like Oscar the Grouch.... a little.... if you squint! | |
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Zippy
Underboss
1993 Posts
Whitewater, WI
| | 03/21/2006 1:09 AM |
| If you were going to use a gulgar, probably LG:
Warpriest of Moradin
2 x Gith Monk
Gulgar
Other Stuff
Gith to stun enemy commander
Gulgar to sonic blast the enemy troops (with commander stunned, forces MC's with Warpriest's Commander Effect)
Gulgar also to force enemy to close range and bunch up (hopefully)
It's not a tier 1 piece though no matter what you stack it with.
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Feathers
Underboss
1140 Posts
| | 03/21/2006 2:01 AM |
| | In your RPG game, not your skirmish. | |
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Aravis
Underboss
1155 Posts
| | 03/21/2006 2:02 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Feathers
In your RPG game, not your skirmish.
Haha! Exactly, nicly put :) | |
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Chad the DragonLordofAiur
Underboss
1085 Posts
Southeast PA
| | 03/21/2006 9:54 AM |
| | Oscar the Gulgar! | |
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Mortusbard
Sergeant
427 Posts
North Carolina
| | 03/21/2006 4:54 PM |
| I have a little piece of criticism for those here.
Not everyone started playing back in the day or can afford to buy older pieces on Ebay or have pieces to trade. In that respect some of the newer pieces that don't quite fit because you have plenty of the optional plug in's may fit for someone without them.
Wizards is keeping it new and fairly competative.
That being said if you do not have the listed pieces for the requisite warbands the Gulgar can fit. IT may not be the best fit but can do.
Adjust the tactics accordingly. As with many multi-functional things it isn't quite as good as the original but can possibly do the job.
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robbdaman
Underboss
2380 Posts
| | 03/21/2006 6:20 PM |
| Gulgar could be used in LG okay. Still I'd rather have a Justicator 9 times out of 10. It's just a better piece for just one more point. If the Justicator didn't exist or the Gulgar was closer to 40 points he'd be a very worthwhile piece for a lot of factions. But he's not, so he isn't.
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