Almalik
Warrior
266 Posts
    
Vancouver-ish, Canada
 | | 04/20/2006 5:31 PM |
| Anyone going to guess at the stats of the newest huge?
It's got to have swallow whole (medium or smaller creatures), but what DC? It also needs poisonous sting which (gives a minus to attack) and burrowing. Anything else? Blind fight maybe? | |
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Fearfrost
Sergeant
518 Posts
| | 04/20/2006 9:17 PM |
| | I'm thinking blindsight but not sure on that. Burrow is a given swallow whole I'd guess 17ish to keep points down, sting might just be damage depends of how many other abilities they give it. | |
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orcmonk220
Underboss
1608 Posts
| | 04/21/2006 4:38 AM |
| I'd love to see extra damage if it attacks after a burrow.
Man, I hope they pull this mini's stats off well. | |
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I Tyrant
Warrior
178 Posts
| | 04/21/2006 10:09 AM |
| | hopefully cleave, also a good borrowing speed. | |
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Low Key
Underboss
1231 Posts
| | 04/21/2006 11:49 AM |
| Its a Magical Beast, right? I dont think it will end up on either of the lawful factions, so...
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Drekzon
Sneak
101 Posts
| | 04/21/2006 5:18 PM |
| | I believe they said it was chaotic. So I'd guess CE/CG. It's CN in the MM. | |
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SneakyJoeKDB
Sergeant
593 Posts
Utah
| | 04/21/2006 5:22 PM |
| | oooooh.....give it some ranged acid spit to go along with its burrow. | |
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Mortusbard
Sergeant
427 Posts
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| | 04/21/2006 6:09 PM |
| It should have a bonus to attacks when using burrow.
Points 142
Huge Magical Beast
Attack +20(Swollow Whole)(Poison 10 DC 19) (30)
Move 6
Level 16
AC 22
HP 170
Immune to CFX
Poisen 10
Burrow 8
Swallow Whole DC 19
DR 5
Errupting attack +5 melee attack bonus and damage when attacking in a turn that it burrows. | |
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Zyla
Underboss
1197 Posts
| | 04/21/2006 7:26 PM |
| | At those stats it wont be 105 pts. | |
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Dagni
Sergeant
870 Posts
| | 04/21/2006 7:57 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Mortusbard
It should have a bonus to attacks when using burrow.
Points 102
Huge Magical Beast
Attack +15(Swollow Whole)(Poison 10 DC 19) (30)
Move 6
Level 12
AC 19
HP 140
Burrow 6
Swallow Whole DC 19
DR 5
It won't be 102 points no matter what stats it has. I'm almost completely sure I remember one of the WotC guys saying (at Winter Fantasy) that all Huges will be 141+ points, and come with an Epic card only, no non-Epic card. Since Huges aren't legal in 200 pt anyway, they want to make it so that no one expects them to be. (Wanting to play a Treant in 200 pt was a common occurance).
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Mortusbard
Sergeant
427 Posts
North Carolina
| | 04/21/2006 8:19 PM |
| | above etry edited. | |
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warty_nosed_goblin
Underboss
1384 Posts
| | 04/22/2006 12:45 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by orcmonk220
I'd love to see extra damage if it attacks after a burrow.
Man, I hope they pull this mini's stats off well.
There's really no need to give it extra damage on a turn that it burrows, since when does anybody not use the burrow ability on a piece that has it? I'm just thinking that I don't see a lot of umber hulks walking around...just give it a bonus to attack and damage on a turn that it moves before attacking | |
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1501 Posts
Spain
| | 04/22/2006 5:16 AM |
| | I dont know what abilities it will have,but I hope the new huge creatures won,t be so useless than the others in giants expansion. The only true good huges are fomorian and storm giant.I hope all the new huges will be a lot of powerful and not so expensive for their low power. | |
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Low Key
Underboss
1231 Posts
| | 04/22/2006 8:05 AM |
| | Since Save=10 rule is no more and all the Huges will cost over 141 points, the problem of sucky low-end huges is hopefully gone... | |
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PhibbyRizo
Warrior
207 Posts
Good Ol' Minnesota
| | 04/22/2006 7:10 PM |
| | I may be wrong, but in the preview, didn't Shoe say it had a weakening poison? | |
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Feathers
Underboss
1140 Posts
| | 04/23/2006 4:48 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by PhibbyRizo
I may be wrong, but in the preview, didn't Shoe say it had a weakening poison?
Yep. Here is what the preview says:
"The first is the business end of the (Huge Uncommon) Purple Worm, a chaotic creature that takes man-sized bites, delivers a devastating weakening poison, and enjoys crawls in the rain. "
So we know it is Chaotic and has a weakening poison. And Burrow is pretty much a given (as stated before in this thread). | |
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Benimoto
Underboss
1125 Posts
| | 04/23/2006 9:53 PM |
| Hmm, here's a 150ish point version that's fairly close to the Monster Manual stats:
Emerging Purple Worm
CG/CE; Uncommon; 150 pts
Lvl 12; Spd 4; AC 19; HP 200
Melee Attack: +20/+15 (25 + swallow whole/20 + weakening poison)
Type: Huge Magical Beast
Special Abilities:
- Weakening Posion (-2 to hit, -5 damage, DC 25)
- Swallow Whole (Destroy smaller creature, DC 17)
- Burrow 4
- Melee Reach 3
I dunno, they might have to beef him up to make him worth 150 points. Maybe double the effect of the poison to -4 to hit, -10 damage. Or maybe the swallow whole would make him worth it right there. Still, on a speed 4 huge creature, by the time you swallow anything, the fight might already be decided.
I'm not really seeing anything that the creature right out of the Monster Manual has to contribute. I mean, he's got a crappy AC, a downright terrible speed, and doesn't even do a lot of damage, for what you might expect a huge worm to do. Luckily, the DDM designers usually do a good job making the creature interesting while retaining its flavor. I'm curious to see what they do to the big purple noodle. | |
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Nobody Important
Sergeant
718 Posts
| | 04/24/2006 1:07 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Benimoto
Hmm, here's a 150ish point version that's fairly close to the Monster Manual stats:
Emerging Purple Worm
CG/CE; Uncommon; 150 pts
Lvl 12; Spd 4; AC 19; HP 200
Melee Attack: +20/+15 (25 + swallow whole/20 + weakening poison)
Type: Huge Magical Beast
Special Abilities:
- Weakening Posion (-2 to hit, -5 damage, DC 25)
- Swallow Whole (Destroy smaller creature, DC 17)
- Burrow 4
- Melee Reach 3
I dunno, they might have to beef him up to make him worth 150 points. Maybe double the effect of the poison to -4 to hit, -10 damage. Or maybe the swallow whole would make him worth it right there. Still, on a speed 4 huge creature, by the time you swallow anything, the fight might already be decided.
I'm not really seeing anything that the creature right out of the Monster Manual has to contribute. I mean, he's got a crappy AC, a downright terrible speed, and doesn't even do a lot of damage, for what you might expect a huge worm to do. Luckily, the DDM designers usually do a good job making the creature interesting while retaining its flavor. I'm curious to see what they do to the big purple noodle.
No comment on the cost but the stats are about right. I'd guess it has blindsight as well. It may have 16HD but Save 10 would be the MM average and what should be used. Swallow whole will probably have a lower DC or just be a big damage bonus similiar to the T-Rex Chomp.
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Low Key
Underboss
1231 Posts
| | 04/24/2006 2:22 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Benimoto
Hmm, here's a 150ish point version that's fairly close to the Monster Manual stats:
Emerging Purple Worm
CG/CE; Uncommon; 150 pts
Lvl 12; Spd 4; AC 19; HP 200
Melee Attack: +20/+15 (25 + swallow whole/20 + weakening poison)
Type: Huge Magical Beast
Special Abilities:
- Weakening Posion (-2 to hit, -5 damage, DC 25)
- Swallow Whole (Destroy smaller creature, DC 17)
- Burrow 4
- Melee Reach 3
My Epic Greenfang Druid warbands wouldnt mind those stats too much. Maybe if it were a little faster, it would be nice, but I could certainly live with this one. | |
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