Foxman
Sergeant
417 Posts
    
Calgary, AB, Canada
 | | 05/05/2006 1:25 PM |
| What do you think is the MVP (most valuable piece) for each faction? That is the piece that gives the best bang for its buck? (Assuming 200 point assault format)
Categories are:
- Under 30 (Tech/Fodder/Tile Grabber, etc.)
- 30-60 (Hitter/Big Tech/Warband Core)
- Over 60 (Titan/Utility Piece)
{NEW} - Commander
Nominate your favourite for each Faction!
I'll update and compile the list as we go..
MVP in the Under 30 points category (Tech/Fodder/Tile Grabber, etc.)
- LG
- CG
- LE
- CE
MVP in the 30-60 points category (Hitter/Big Tech/Warband Core)
- LG
- CG
- LE
- CE
MVP in the Over 60 points category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- LG
- CG
- LE
- CE
MVP in the Commander category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- LG
- CG
- LE
- CE
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It would be very unlikely for unlikely events not to occur.
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Foxman
Sergeant
417 Posts
Calgary, AB, Canada
| | 05/05/2006 1:26 PM |
| Nominations so far:
MVP in the Under 30 points category (Tech/Fodder/Tile Grabber, etc.)
LG
- Aramil, Adventurer
- Warforged Scout
CG
- Devis, Half-Elf Bard
- Aramil, Adventurer
- Graycloak Ranger
- Nebin, Gnome Illusionist
LE
- Dark Moon Monk
- Destrachen
CE
- Orc War Drummer
MVP in the 30-60 points category (Hitter/Big Tech/Warband Core)
LG
- Justice Archon
CG
- Rikka, Angelic Avenger
LE
- Helmed Horror
- Duergar Champion
CE
- Red Samurai
- Orc Champion
MVP in the Over 60 points category (Titan/Utility Piece)
LG
- Marut
- Large Silver Dragon
CG
- Archmage
- Aspect of Kord
LE
- War Troll
- Beholder
CE
- Hill Giant Barbarian
MVP in the Commander category (Titan/Utility Piece)
LG
- Couatl
CG
- Inspiring Marshal
LE
- Orog Warlord
- Snig the Axe
CE
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It would be very unlikely for unlikely events not to occur.
- J. A. Paulos "Innumeracy" | |
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Hero of Skirmish
doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 1:31 PM |
| MVP in the Under 30 points category (Tech/Fodder/Tile Grabber, etc.)
- LG Aramil, Adventurer
- CG Devis, Half-Elf Bard
- LE Dark Moon Monk
- CE Orc War Drummer
MVP in the 30-60 points category (Hitter/Big Tech/Warband Core)
- LG Couatl
- CG Inspiring Marshal
- LE Helmed Horror
- CE Red Samurai
MVP in the Over 60 points category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- LG Marut
- CG Archmage
- LE Orog Warlord (largely due to lack of choices)
- CE Hill Giant Barbarian | |
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SneakyJoeKDB
Sergeant
593 Posts
Utah
| | 05/05/2006 1:33 PM |
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Kiddoc
Underboss
1797 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 1:35 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
MVP in the Under 30 points category (Tech/Fodder/Tile Grabber, etc.)
- LG Aramil, Adventurer
- CG Devis, Half-Elf Bard
- LE Dark Moon Monk
- CE Orc War Drummer
MVP in the 30-60 points category (Hitter/Big Tech/Warband Core)
- LG Couatl
- CG Inspiring Marshal
- LE Helmed Horror
- CE Red Samurai
MVP in the Over 60 points category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- LG Marut
- CG Archmage
- LE Orog Warlord (largely due to lack of choices)
- CE Hill Giant Barbarian
Uh... Damn.
I agree completely. Well said.
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Hero of Skirmish
doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 1:38 PM |
| I guess there is a reason I write the toolkit articles. [:p]
(Mostly that I pay attention when better players start talking about the effectiveness of pieces.) | |
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djtool
Sergeant
584 Posts
Crystal MN, USA
| | 05/05/2006 1:44 PM |
| I agree with buddha except for DMM. I think that's only because of the current meta. I think snig's value will last forever and thus should replace DMM.
red sam > orc champ? I'm not educated enough on the subject to question it but curious. | |
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EldritchSoul
Warrior
324 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 1:45 PM |
| I'll vary my choices slightly...
MVP in the Under 30 points category (Tech/Fodder/Tile Grabber, etc.)
- LG Aramil, Adventurer
- CG Aramil, Adventurer
- LE Dark Moon Monk
- CE Orc War Drummer
MVP in the 30-60 points category (Hitter/Big Tech/Warband Core)
- LG Githzerai Monk
- CG Frenzied Berserker
- LE Helmed Horror
- CE Orc Champion
MVP in the Over 60 points category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- LG Marut
- CG Aspect of Kord
- LE War Troll
- CE Hill Giant Barbarian
Commander
- LG Couatl
- CG Inspiring Marshall
- LE Snig the Axe (although there's about 5 that I like ALOT)
- CE Teifling Captain | |
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ickthegreat
Warrior
291 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 1:46 PM |
| | Yeah, doubtofbuddha pretty much nailed it. There is not alot of peices to disagree with his choices that are that effective or that coltrolling in the game. | |
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Eliminator53
Sergeant
628 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 1:51 PM |
| I am going to do this for my main factions.
MVP in the Under 30 points category (Tech/Fodder/Tile Grabber, etc.)
LG - Warforged Scout - It is hard not to include one of these in any LG warband, the advantage of Victory points nowadays is tremendous
LE - Snig the Axe - This was close but for 20 points you get 4 activations and that is hard to beat (the Kobold Miner was close but didn't make it because of wandering monster)
MVP in the 30-60 points category (Hitter/Big Tech/Warband Core)
LG - Couatl - Like the WF Scout, Nearly every LG warband includes one, and as pointed out by DoubtofBuddha, It epitomizes the LG commander right now
LE - Duergar Champion - Almost every mainstay LE band includes not one but multiples of this in-exspensive beater.
MVP in the Over 60 points category (Titan/Utility Piece)
LG - Marut - The best titan in LG. Partnered w/ a couatl, the marut becomes a damage dealing machine that rarely misses.
LE - War Troll - This one was hard. Ever since the Thaskor there really hasn't been to many LE Titans running around. I picked the war troll because of his durability and ability to shoot and smack the opponent (The Orog Warlord might also fit into this category. Same w/ the Beholder if it wasn't for the Helmed Horrors and Maruts in the current meta). | |
Champion of Tavern Stripper
Knight of Knights
Squire of Death Giants
Somethin-or-another of Big Arse Swords | |
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ChristopherGroves
Warlord
6093 Posts
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nycfarmkid
Underboss
1210 Posts
Wadsworth, OH
| | 05/05/2006 2:02 PM |
| MVP in the Under 30 points category (Tech/Fodder/Tile Grabber, etc.)
- LG Aramil, Adventurer
- CG Xen'drick Champion
- LE Destrachen (lots of cones and 60 HP for 26 points)
- CE Orc War Drummer
MVP in the 30-60 points category (Hitter/Big Tech/Warband Core)
- LG Warforged Bodyguard
- CG Frenzied Berserker
- LE Helmed Horror
- CE Red Samurai
MVP in the Over 60 points category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- LG LSD (I just dont like the Marut)
- CG Archmage
- LE War Troll (I think this guy has some untapped potential)
- CE Hill Giant Barbarian
MVP in the Commander category
- LG Coautl
- CG Inspiring Marshall
- LE Rakshasa
- CE Tiefling Captain
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Foxman
Sergeant
417 Posts
Calgary, AB, Canada
| | 05/05/2006 2:08 PM |
| I forgot when I was doing this up - Include a Commander catagory ;)
I've included commanders above - please edit your posts to include a Commanders section ;)
And as cool as doubtofbudda is, I think he may be off on a few selections - but thats just me ;) I'll post my selections later ;) | |
It would be very unlikely for unlikely events not to occur.
- J. A. Paulos "Innumeracy" | |
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demitroy
Skirmisher
39 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 2:09 PM |
| Just felt that someone should point out that technically the IM is only 29 points...
As far as MVPs go, I have a hard time disagreeing with Doubt... Only other piece I keep thinking of is Nebin for CG in the tech dep. Blur, magic weapon, and acid arrow on an 18 point fig is hard to argue against.
Just my 2cp. | |
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Hero of Skirmish
doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 2:15 PM |
| | Ah. Good point. The time since I last played CG is showing. [)] I keep thinking he is 31 points for some reason. (Probably because I have been thinking of the Warchanter as of late.) | |
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Errorzero
Skirmisher
20 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 2:17 PM |
| I Only Play CG And LE So I Can't Comment On The Others
Under 30
CG Nebin: Blurs And Acid Arrows.
LE Snig: Cheap Activation Control
30-60
CG Rikka: Waylay Is An Amazing Ability
LE Druergar Champ: Amazing Survivability And Good Damage Potential
60 +
CG Aspect Of Kord: Ouch With Brass Sammy
LE Beholder: Lots Of Variety, But On the Right Map, You Can Kill Stuff Rolling 1-4. Add In Anti Magic Eye, And You Can Really Restrict Most Bands. | |
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Eliminator53
Sergeant
628 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 2:40 PM |
| I am going to do this for my main factions.
MVP in the Under 30 points category (Tech/Fodder/Tile Grabber, etc.)
LG - Warforged Scout - It is hard not to include one of these in any LG warband, the advantage of Victory points nowadays is tremendous
LE - Dark Moon Monk - The DMM is the cheapest magic weapon for LE. Even when she is thru buffing she can be used as a tile grabber or my personal favorite role, spells willing using true strike to kill an enemy w/ 5 hp left.
MVP in the 30-60 points category (Hitter/Big Tech/Warband Core)
LG - Justice Archon - The JA gets the nod over the Gith Monk because he doesn't require a specific commander to be effective. Justice Strike, Bold, and Flight contribute to making her one of LG's staple pieces.
LE - Duergar Champion - Almost every mainstay LE band includes not one but multiples of this in-exspensive beater.
MVP in the Over 60 points category (Titan/Utility Piece)
LG - Marut - The best titan in LG. Partnered w/ a couatl, the marut becomes a damage dealing machine that rarely misses.
LE - War Troll - This one was hard. Ever since the Thaskor there really hasn't been to many LE Titans running around. I picked the war troll because of his durability and ability to shoot and smack the opponent (The Beholder would be here if it wasn't for the Helmed Horrors and Maruts in the current meta).
Commander MVP
LG - Couatl - Like the WF Scout, Nearly every LG warband includes one, and as pointed out by DoubtofBuddha, It epitomizes the LG commander right now
LE - Snig the Axe - Having the ability to get four activations for 20 points is unbeatable in any faction. (Shuluth, Archvillan gets honorable mention. W/ one of the most powerful commander effects in the game, Shuluth has gigantic potential)
Here are my changes. | |
Champion of Tavern Stripper
Knight of Knights
Squire of Death Giants
Somethin-or-another of Big Arse Swords | |
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zenthrus
Warlord
5082 Posts
SLC, UT
| | 05/05/2006 4:02 PM |
| MVP in the Under 30 points category (Tech/Fodder/Tile Grabber, etc.)
- LG Aramil
- CG Graycloak
- LE Dark Moon Monk
- CE Orc Wardrummer
MVP in the 30-60 points category (Hitter/Big Tech/Warband Core)
- LG Couatl (it's a big tech piece)
- CG Frenzied Berserker
- LE Helmed Horror (95 fearless HP on a construct? Yikes!)
- CE Orc Champ
MVP in the Over 60 points category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- LG Marut
- CG Archmage
- LE Iron Golem (LE has sturdy commanders to tie him to)
- CE Hill Giant Barb (are there really any other CE titans?)
MVP in the Commander category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- LG Cleric of Order (excellent compliment to the Couatl). I also like the Aspect of Moradin.
- CG Inspiring Marshal
- LE Snig the Axe (Archfiends variety)
- CE Eye of Gruumsh
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The_Duke
Sneak
158 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 4:10 PM |
| My choices are valuable to me because they are aesthetic and fun, not necessarily because they are all-around winners:
MVP in the Under 30 points category (Tech/Fodder/Tile Grabber, etc.)
- ANY Sage
- LG Celestial Dire Badger
- CG Nebin, Gnome Illusionist
- LE Gravehound
- CE Cursed Spirit
MVP in the 30-60 points category (Hitter/Big Tech/Warband Core)
- ANY Dire Bear
- LG Githzerai Monk
- CG Frenzied Berserker
- LE Chain Devil
- CE Bugbear Champion of Erythnul
MVP in the Over 60 points category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- ANY Mordenkainen the Mage
- LG Marut
- CG Drizzt, Drow Ranger!!!
- LE Aspect of Bane
- CE Aspect of Orcus
MVP in the Commander category
- ANY Mordenkainen the Mage
- LG Couatl
- CG Greenfang Druid
- LE Shuluth, Archvillain
- CE BALOR! "ENSLAVE!"
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10425 Posts
United States
| | 05/05/2006 4:44 PM |
| I'm trying to look ahead a little bit too....
MVP in the Under 30 points category (Tech/Fodder/Tile Grabber, etc.)
- LG Cleric of Order
- CG Aramil
- LE Snig
- CE Orc War Drummer
MVP in the 30-60 points category (Hitter/Big Tech/Warband Core)
- LG Couatl
- CG Frenzied Berserker
- LE Helmed Horror
- CE Red Samurai
MVP in the Over 60 points category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- LG Marut
- CG Archmage
- LE Can I vote for Helmed Horror x2?
- CE Large Red Dragon
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Shiva_0
Sneak
79 Posts
| | 05/06/2006 1:45 AM |
| I agree with many of the posts, but I shalt dare to be different and on top of that I will only list minis I have [:I]
MVP in the Under 30 points category (Tech/Fodder/Tile Grabber, etc.)
LG: Warforged Scout (8 pts. for those skills?! In LG?!!!)
CG: Crow Shaman (He will PUMP you up! And CG needs it)
LE: Dark Moon Monk (So few MW casters, and so many minis in need)
CE: Quaggoth Slave (Wardrummer's great, but I prefer to annihilate my opponents with no escapees; those who run are unworthy anyway [}:)])
MVP in the 30-60 points category (Hitter/Big Tech/Warband Core)
LG: Slayer of Domiel (Rarely used, and inconspicuous until she kills your top piece and ends the game)
CG: Warforged Barbarian (With proper support he's an unstoppable beast)
LE: Duergar Champion (I love the HH, but I use these more)
CE: Clay Golem (Good, Evil, just more butt to kick and he kicks a lot; only Requires Instruction)
MVP in the Over 60 points category (Titan/Utility Piece)
LG: Sword Archon (Now with Sacred Watchers!)
CG: I got nothing, sorry, needs to be Epic.
LE: Aspect of Bane (Hardly used, but SCARY and practically Epic)
CE: Hill Giant Barbarian (He threatened to hit me with a tree if I didn't put him on here)
MVP in the Commander category (Titan/Utility Piece)
LG: Cleric of Dol Arrah (For such a flashy looking piece, people ignore her and she just keeps buffing, blasting, and dismissing...and Command 7!)
CG: Champion of Eilistraee (+2 to-hit and AC for swordwielders AND any Drow AND a passable beater with Command 4: OMFG she's a BRICKHOUSE!!!)
LE: Shuluth (Didn't think much of him until I saw him kill a fodder piece early in a game for his +4 and then go toe-to-toe with a Balor where he beat it to a pulp)
CE: Tiefling Capt. (+4 Commanders in CE are rare enough, but for 21 pts. with that CFX and with HGB about...Yikes)
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Thenameless
Warlord
11464 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 05/06/2006 2:59 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Foxman
MVP in the Under 30 points category (Tech/Fodder/Tile Grabber, etc.)
- LG Man-at-Arms
- CG Crow Shaman
- LE Goblin Skirmisher
- CE Orc Warrior
MVP in the 30-60 points category (Hitter/Big Tech/Warband Core)
- LG Justice Archon
- CG Elf Pyromancer
- LE Gauth
- CE Orc Champion
MVP in the Over 60 points category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- LG Marut
- CG Archmage
- LE Beholder
- CE Hill Giant Barbarian
MVP in the Commander category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- LG Couatl
- CG Inspiring Marshal
- LE Urthok
- CE Eye of Gruumsh
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Pegasus Knight
Sergeant
896 Posts
| | 05/06/2006 3:20 AM |
| I'll have to abstain from voting on LE/CE since I don't play them.
MVP in the Under 30 points category (Tech/Fodder/Tile Grabber, etc.)
- LG: Aramil
- CG: Devis
MVP in the 30-60 points category (Hitter/Big Tech/Warband Core)
- LG: Justice Archon
- CG: Celestial Pegasus
MVP in the Over 60 points category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- LG: Abstain - I generally don't play LG Titans.
- CG: Archmage
MVP in the Commander category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- LG: Cleric of Dol Arrah
- CG: Brass Samurai
If this were a poll for Epic, some of my answers would change, but as it is, those are the pieces I go to the most often in 200/8. | |
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Janos M.
Underboss
1015 Posts
Hamburg / GErmany
| | 05/06/2006 6:01 AM |
| MVP in the Under 30 points category (Tech/Fodder/Tile Grabber, etc.)
- LG Aramil, Adventurer
- CG Graycloak Ranger
- LE Dark Moon Monk
- CE Orc Wardrummer
MVP in the 30-60 points category (Hitter/Big Tech/Warband Core)
- LG Justice Archon
- CG Elf Pyromancer
- LE Duergar Champion
- CE Orc Champion
MVP in the Over 60 points category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- LG Marut
- CG Archmage
- LE Beholder
- CE Hill Giant Barbarian
MVP in the Commander category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- LG COuatl
- CG Inspiring Marshal
- LE Snig, the Axe
- CE Tiefling Captain | |
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iluvxtina
Underboss
1500 Posts
Spain
| | 05/06/2006 6:18 AM |
| LG:couat+marut+cleric order+large silver dragon
CG:Frenzied berserker+crow shaman+nebbin+archmage
LG/CG:aramil+healer+eberk
LE:helmed horror+gauth+dark naga+duergar champion
CE:orc champion+hill giant+orc wardrummer+eye gruumsh+tiefling captain.
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nycfarmkid
Underboss
1210 Posts
Wadsworth, OH
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rhane
Underboss
1412 Posts
| | 05/07/2006 10:48 AM |
| Here's my boring choices
MVP in the Under 30 points category (Tech/Fodder/Tile Grabber, etc.)
- LG: Warforged Scout
- CG: Devis
- LE: Dark Moon Monk
- CE: Orc Wardrummer
MVP in the 30-60 points category (Hitter/Big Tech/Warband Core)
- LG: Justice Archon
- CG: Frenzied Berserker
- LE: Duergar Champ (I use at least 1 in almost every LE warband...can't say the same for HH)
- CE: Orc Champion (Once again, I only have 1 and almost always include him)
MVP in the Over 60 points category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- LG: Marut
- CG: Archmage
- LE: Beholder
- CE: Hill Giant Barbarian
MVP in the Commander category (Titan/Utility Piece)
- LG: Couatl
- CG: Inspiring Marshal
- LE: Rakshasa
- CE: Tiefling Captain
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