Gnolaum
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| See: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=633325
Basically a creatures have to be completely in Forest to be guaranteed the cover bonus, if only part of the creature is in forest, your creature does not have cover against an opponent creature that is adjacent to one of the squares of your creature that is not in a forest square.
Makes sense, even if it is a mouthful to communicate. | |
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Vrecknidj
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Wayne
Underboss
1371 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 7:36 PM |
| Interesting.
FFF...<br>FFOO..<br>FFOO..<br>FFF...<br> Note that a Medium creature in the third forest square (top or bottom row) benefits from cover against the Ogre, but the Ogre doesn't get cover from it.
This clarification is an improvement, but I still don't like the way it interacts with Melee Reach. How hard would it be to say, "No cover if the nearest square that is subject to a melee attack is not in Forest"? | |
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forkedmoon
Underboss
1305 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 8:26 PM |
| | Agreed. This makes sense. | |
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 8:38 PM |
| | I sorta thought that was the way it worked already. | |
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PatEllis15
Commander
4463 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 8:46 PM |
| Hmmm..... Guy and Shoe must have really been concerned by something. Didn't Guy say just a couple of weeks ago that he didn't want to make any other "changes" (as opposed to simple clarification) until after the season?!
Well, I think it's good... though I'm certain those who are playing in the first few qualifiers and had been counting on the old rule are a bit put out.
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SneakyJoeKDB
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593 Posts
Utah
| | 05/05/2006 8:51 PM |
| | Seems rules keep coming up to sabatoge the Marut builds. Hmmmm a conspiracy. | |
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Pegasus Knight
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896 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 9:06 PM |
| Bad time for it to happen in theory, but I'm okay with it. If they saw something significant enough that it needed to be changed right now, I'll believe that and accomodate for the change. Sure, "Day before a qualifier" is a bad time to do it, but they must've seen a very compelling reason to do so. What that reason is, I don't know, but I'll give GuyF and Shoe the benefit of the doubt.
Thanks for pointing this out, Gnolaum. | |
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guyf
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| | 05/05/2006 9:06 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by PatEllis15
Hmmm..... Guy and Shoe must have really been concerned by something. Didn't Guy say just a couple of weeks ago that he didn't want to make any other "changes" (as opposed to simple clarification) until after the season?!
Sort of. I said to not expect a change on one specific ruling until afterward because quick changes are sometimes troublesome.
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Well, I think it's good... though I'm certain those who are playing in the first few qualifiers and had been counting on the old rule are a bit put out.
... which is why last-second changes like this can be troublesome.
However, I'd rather have all qualifiers* be played under the same set of rules/clarifications than some using some rules and others using other rules. So I stayed up late a few nights and slacked a little bit at work yesterday, and got a couple things pushed out the door. In this case, I think it's for the best.
*Since the EU tournament was effectively a qualifier, they obviously didn't use this new rule. But they're also not on the list of qualifiers, so I escape on a technicality [:)]
(So you'll have to wait until after the qualifiers before I post the Beastmaster errata that gives Animals +15 melee and ranged damage when they're under command. [)]) | |
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guyf
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| | 05/05/2006 9:11 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by guyf
(So you'll have to wait until after the qualifiers before I post the Beastmaster errata that gives Animals +15 melee and ranged damage when they're under command. [)])
Ranged damage?! I guess that means we're finally getting the Awakened Gorilla Archer! | |
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Kevizoid
Sergeant
373 Posts
Southern California
| | 05/05/2006 9:20 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by guyf
quote:
Originally posted by guyf
(So you'll have to wait until after the qualifiers before I post the Beastmaster errata that gives Animals +15 melee and ranged damage when they're under command. [)])
Ranged damage?! I guess that means we're finally getting the Awakened Gorilla Archer!
.....ok..whatever freak....:P
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AesophDarkfable
Warlord
5628 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 10:07 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by guyf
quote:
Originally posted by guyf
(So you'll have to wait until after the qualifiers before I post the Beastmaster errata that gives Animals +15 melee and ranged damage when they're under command. [)])
Ranged damage?! I guess that means we're finally getting the Awakened Gorilla Archer!
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Kat_Dawg33
Warrior
291 Posts
USA
| | 05/05/2006 10:11 PM |
| | Excellent! The other way was bugging me! This seems to make more sense. | |
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johnny.quest
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1364 Posts
| | 05/05/2006 11:50 PM |
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BoloBaby
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| | 05/06/2006 12:47 AM |
| | Thank you Guy. Two great rules fixes recently! (The other being pinning.) | |
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Venport
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739 Posts
| | 05/06/2006 1:41 AM |
| | I think it was a good change even if i was hoping that i would not work that way | |
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zuljin
Skirmisher
38 Posts
| | 05/06/2006 1:46 AM |
| | Good! That makes sense and needed to be changed. | |
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Thenameless
Warlord
11730 Posts
The Fortress of Solitude
| | 05/06/2006 2:46 AM |
| | That's a good rule change. If you take it to the ridiculous, in the old ruling, a colossal creature could benefit from forest/cover by having only one square in the forest. | |
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Chairman7w
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| | 05/06/2006 11:28 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Venport
I think it was a good change even if i was hoping that i would not work that way
Heh - I'll bet you were. :) | |
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Bert the Troll
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3964 Posts
Adelaide
| | 05/07/2006 10:32 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by SneakyJoeKDB
Seems rules keep coming up to sabatoge the Marut builds. Hmmmm a conspiracy.
The other rule changed _helped_ the Marut builds.
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