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07/04/2006 3:17 PM  
Now that 1000 pt bands look like more of a reality with all the high cost creatures.

what kind of band will you make?

my friends and I are gonna try a (1000 pt 12 fig) vs 2 x 500 pt (8 fig) band

course that band has to follow a theme

I made a tordek/dwarf band

this basically expands on my 500 pt tordek band + adds a couple of extra beaters.. still blur rolls are gonna be a bitch :o

tordek, dwarf champ (epic)
aspect of moradin (epic)
slaughterstone eviscerator (epic)
dwarven defender
warpriest of moradin
dwarf ancestor
battle plate marshall
couatl
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war weaver
dwarf sergeant
dwarf artificer

tordek has 32 ac (40 ac vs giants) or 36 ac vs peeps that moved or 44 vs giants that moved all while not being within range of any dwarven commanders!!!

course you need to have fly on tordek and NEED to keep the dwarf ancestor alive :D


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07/04/2006 3:19 PM  
also

I guess the other beaters in the band.. aspect of moradin @ 30 AC and the slaughter stone AC 32 are no pushover either


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07/04/2006 4:12 PM  
We're actually doing this format tomorrow at the FLGS. It'll be myself and another player using 1000 point armies vs. two other players using 500 point armies. I've had a lot of ideas but some I just don't have the figures to make happen. 8 Steel Predators with the new Blackguard on Nightmare (epic) commanding would be nice. As would Ryld, Hill Giant Chief and 6 Fomorians but I just don't have that many of said multiple figures. I have a few other ideas so we'll see what I throw at them. Should be a lot of fun!

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07/26/2006 10:04 AM  
Given the opportunity to play in the format I think I would run:

Dragon Totem Hero, Epic 157
Aspect of Tiamat 352
Aspect of Bahamut 318
Golden Protector 41
Wand Expert 33
Large Green Dragon 51
Small White Dragon 24
Small White Dragon 24
total 1000

Tiamat and Bahamut working together? Yikes. I would blur them both with the Wand Expert, use the Golden Protector with Bahamut and one Small White for Team A and Tiamat with the Large Green and the other Small White as Team B.

Dispatch the two teams along either side of the map and sweep whatever gets in the way until they meet in the middle. The Small Whites are great for flankers to activate the Large Green's flanking bonus.

The Epic Dragon Totem Hero can either accompany one of the two teams for one totally overwhelming force or strike out on his own trying to clean up stragglers or other solo figs. Walk the Wand Expert along with him for added auto-damage and they could make a decent Team C.

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07/26/2006 10:11 AM  
AoB and AoT cannot be brought in with the DTH. They are both Commanders, which means another Commander's Warband Building won't work with them.

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07/26/2006 11:37 AM  
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Originally posted by Orion72

AoB and AoT cannot be brought in with the DTH. They are both Commanders, which means another Commander's Warband Building won't work with them.



Could you please explain to me why you can't bring both in? Relative newbie but I didn't see whats stopping the Totem Hero from doing this. The card states "Dragons of any faction are legal in your warband." It doesn't mention anything about them being commanders.

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07/26/2006 12:51 PM  
Warband Building is a Commander Effect. Commander Effects only works on non-Commanders.


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07/26/2006 1:29 PM  
TRUDAT :O

You can bring Bahamut over to CG thru Elminster but that's about it.

You currently can't have Bahamut or Tiamat on the same faction .. unless you are playing dragon down grotto :p


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07/26/2006 1:32 PM  
Actually the two smaller allied teams should be 450pts each not 500pts. The original Dread Enemy was 500pts vs 225pts x2.


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07/26/2006 1:46 PM  
Ah, well, just proves my newbie-ness.

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07/26/2006 1:50 PM  
Dragon Totem Hero 157
Huge Red Dragon 216
Huge Gold Dragon 291
Sorcerer on Black Dragon 200
Spellscale Sorecer 31
Large Green Dragon 61
4x Small Black Dragon 11/44
10 activations 1000 points.

Or another option
Dragon Totem Hero 157
Gargantuan Black Dragon 500
Spellscale Sorcerer 31
Large Green Dragon 61
Large Bronze Dragon 65
Large Red Dragon 83
Large Copper Dragon 65
Bronze Wyrmling 24
2x Baaz Draconions 6/12

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07/26/2006 1:56 PM  
Okay, so here is my revised dragon band for 1000 pt.

Team A
Aspect of Bahamut 318
Golden Protector 41
Small Black Dragon 11
Team B
Bluespawn Godslayer 145
Bluespawn Godslayer 145
Large Green Dragon 51
Team C
Dragon Totem Hero, Epic 157
Elminster of Shadowdale 100
Spellscale Sorcerer 31
total 999


Elminster/Spellscale can blur the three Huges then work on Enfeebling the opposing top hitters.

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07/26/2006 7:31 PM  
Perhaps not as effective as they should be I came up with three all flying 1000pt warbands.

Good Dragon Flight
Aspect of Bahamut
Huge Gold Dragon
Large Silver Dragon
Large Bronze Dragon
Large Copper Dragon
Medium Silver Dragon
Brass Dragon
Bronze Wyrmling
Small Copper Dragon

The Flight of Darkness
Aspect of Tiamat
Huge Red Dragon
Sorcerer on Black Dragon
Large Blue Dragon
Large Green Dragon
Black Dragon
Red Wyrmling
Small White Dragon
Small Black Dragon

Chaotic Air Force
Griffon Cavalry (epic)x3
Rikka, Angelic Avenger (epic)
Ghaele Eladrin
Archmage x2
Medium Air Elemental x2

The Dragon bands are entirely thematic as I tried to include each primary dragon type. The CG one is a little trick as I tried to stay away from the dragons. All are designed to be played in the open sky where the only terrain are clouds and flying does not automatically protect from AoO.


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07/27/2006 5:18 AM  
here's a quick 1000 point band in the standard 8 activations. lol.

aspect of tiamat
dracolich
bluespawn godslayer
bluespawn godslayer
beholder
small black dragon
timber wolf
kobold miner

tiamat is just there for her goodness, and in 1000 points it actually gives you room for nasty beaters. dracolich and godslayers benefit from her commander effect. beholder is there for antimagic eye and to drop some negative damage on the dracolich. the other three are tile grabbers. its just an interesting concept to toy around with.


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07/27/2006 11:13 AM  
I like that Chaotic Air Force idea!

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07/27/2006 1:12 PM  
Thanks dmmandil. If you're not a slave to theme it isn't too hard to improve any of those warbands and/or get them down to the eight figure limit. My biggest problem with them is the real world cost involved in constructing them due to all the rares (and old rares as well) that are in them.



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07/28/2006 9:16 AM  
That is true. Where I do most of my playing the sets you can pull from are limitted to the last four so apart from the limits of finding and buying old pieces, I am limitted by the fact none of the old pieces are legal in the local format. Needless to say I do most of my buying in the recent sets and simply adapt peoples ideas as best I can. For instance, what commander to use with the Gith Monks when the Young Master is not legal, etc.

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