Posted By LordOfBlades on 02/02/2008 2:55 AM
Reaping Claws: Replaces attack action: make 2 (melee) attacks and a Poison Sting attack, all against the same target.

Bodyguard: Immediate, when an enemy attacks an adjacent ally; the attack targets this creature instead.

First of all: is bodyguard optional? Or it always activates when the adjacent creature is the target of an attack? I don't see any option words in the bodyguard text(such as 'can target' instead of 'targets' for example)

If the bodyguard is optional, can you use it for just one attack in the Reaping Claws?( I think so, because unlike Renidng Claws, which is a single attack with 2 rolls and lsited as such, Rending Claws specifically mentions making multiple attacks.

If so, what happens if the bodyguard is declared vs. the second attack. Rending Claws says 'make all attacks vs. the same creature', and in this scenario you are forced to target another creature with the second attacks.


I would really appreciate any answer.
Thank you.

Posted By maijstral on 02/02/2008 2:07 PM
Bodyguard is optional in that you can choose not to use it at all, you have to declare it before the attack is rolled.

Posted By Sirohk on 02/03/2008 4:31 AM

Can you point out where in the rules it says this?  We do not have an errata or anything for this yet, and it was only ruled that way in DDM 1.0.  The new DDM 2.0 Bodyguard Special Power is worded differently than it was in DDM 1.0.Â

Per the new DoD DDM 2.0 Merchant Guard card: Bodyguard: Immediate, when an enemy attacks an adjacent ally, the attack targetsthis creature instead.Â

pg 34 new rulebook:ÂSpecial Powers - Many special powers take effect automatically under dertain conditions ...

pg 44 new rulebook: Immediate - Certain special powers or other effects interrupt the current action.  Resolve immediate effect before resolving the triggering condition or current action.Â

From DDM 1.0 Merchant Guard card DoD1 - Bodyguard If an adjacent creature in your Warband would take damage from an attack, this creature can take the damage instead.Â

Posted By rrrrupp on 02/04/2008 9:12 AM
With that said, I don't see why you couldn't declare bodyguard on one claw and not the next.

Posted By rrrrupp on 02/04/2008 11:10 AM
huh? Where is this notion of "required" special powers coming from?

Is an animated statue required to use deflecting skin when it is attacked?

Is a rage drake required to use frenzied action when he attacks?

Defender is an IMMEDIATE ACTION, as I have stated above. It's a choice.

I'm guessing people are getting confused because it has no checkbox so they assume it's passive. Having no checkbox only tells us that there is no limit to the number of times you may use it.

Many Special powers take effect automatically under certain conditions, such as Powerful Charge (grants a bonus to Damage when charging).

Most work as soon as you need them to.

Posted By rrrrupp on 02/04/2008 2:49 PM
I'll agree that the rules could have been clearer. With that said, here's what I would consider proof from the rules.

Pg 34



This is referring to passive abilities as I have already talked about. Another example would be the Yuan-Ti Malison as I've stated above.



It's poorly worded in that it doesn't state exactly which effects fall into each category but I believe the example of a passive effect is proof enough until we have clarification.

If you continue to believe it works the way you've said, you have to go all out... and some of the things that would mean wouldn't be good at all

Just a few examples:

Rage Drake is forced to use both attacks when making an attack.
Dwarf Maulfighter is forced to use stunning cleave when he destroys an enemy (effectively wasting it if no adjacent enemies exist)
Shrieking Harpy: Must use lure as soon as an enemy activates within 6 squares.

It's pretty absurd.

Posted By rrrrupp on 02/04/2008 2:49 PM
I'll agree that the rules could have been clearer. With that said, here's what I would consider proof from the rules.

Pg 34



This is referring to passive abilities as I have already talked about. Another example would be the Yuan-Ti Malison as I've stated above.



It's poorly worded in that it doesn't state exactly which effects fall into each category but I believe the example of a passive effect is proof enough until we have clarification.

If you continue to believe it works the way you've said, you have to go all out... and some of the things that would mean wouldn't be good at all

Just a few examples:

Rage Drake is forced to use both attacks when making an attack.
Dwarf Maulfighter is forced to use stunning cleave when he destroys an enemy (effectively wasting it if no adjacent enemies exist)
Shrieking Harpy: Must use lure as soon as an enemy activates within 6 squares.

It's pretty absurd.