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kingslurr
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08/11/2008 6:53 PM  
I havnt tried this warband yet please rate 1 - 10 I low 10 high

Storm Silverhand(57)
Lyrandar Skyfire Captain(55)
Storm Archer(33)
Storm Archer(33)
Elf Archer(5)
Elf Archer(5)
Farmer(3)
Farmer(3)
Farmer(3
Farmer(3)

I like the special ability of the Storm Archers. And skycap can buff them also or change damage type for storm archer.
Heck even the lowly farmers get a boost from SS.. heck everyone gets the boost except SS herself.

Map Flooded ruins the range attackers fav map


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08/11/2008 8:12 PM  
This band looks decent. Storm's getting some use out of her champion powers for sure. The Lyrander's Champion 3 helps you win map fairly often (but this band looks pretty vulnerable on a bad map). When you do win map, you're going to do well againt melee-heavy bands, as long as you can keep the teleporter on your side blocked. The LSC's champion power to ground flyers may help a little, but since it only takes effect for one turn (two activations), it won't stop a clever opponent for long.

You probably won't fare well against a TBA + bodyguard band, since you have no merchant guards to soak up status effects for your important pieces. But, with the free attacks from the Storm Archers (if they can see the TBA, not guaranteed by any means), you have a fighting chance. (Also, on Flooded Ruins, it may be hard to keep line of sight to a well-placed TBA without bunching your minis together where the confusion burst can get more than one at a time.)

Any kind of multiple Astral Stalker band will give you fits (since they have hide, they can shoot at you but you can't shoot back), but it seems like people don't play those much anymore, so they're probably not an issue. Other creatures with "Hide" can cause trouble though. (For example: digesters, babau, assassins, shadow dragons - you won't be able to shoot at them as long as they have cover during their approach.)

The Thrall of Blackrazor might be another risk... he can get across the water pretty quickly, and if he gets at your farmers, he'll be scooping up free HPs at a disgusting rate.

My main concern is that the LSC's champion 3 may not be good enough to win map often enough, and it seems like this band may have a hard time on a map that's unfriendly to ranged bands. However, whether that concern is valid depends on the group you normally play with, and what champions are popular there.

Overall, it seems pretty good. I give it 7 out of 10. But the only way to find out how good it really is is to play it. Play a couple test matches against other bands you like (and bands you see other people mention on here), and you'll quickly gain a feel for how good each band is.

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08/12/2008 2:38 AM  
Well, I'd rate it illegal... Lyrandar is a Half-Elf, not Human or Elf, so Storm's Warband Building does not work.


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08/12/2008 5:18 AM  
Posted By FriendlyAlienist on 08/12/2008 2:38 AM
Well, I'd rate it illegal... Lyrandar is a Half-Elf, not Human or Elf, so Storm's Warband Building does not work.


Indeed.  Unless there's a rules change at some point, the Half-Elf pieces do not benefit from pieces like Storm or the Warhorse.

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08/12/2008 5:26 AM  
Aha. Good catch guys.

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08/12/2008 7:10 AM  

That warbands sounds good. However, replacing Skyfire... i guess that we can get Runecarver eidolon... (+2 attack +5 damage) and get another farmer.


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08/12/2008 7:12 AM  
Then, the elf archer can attack with +16 vs AC making 20 damage.... the rest one... better!!!!

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08/12/2008 8:57 AM  
As much as I hate to say it, an Eternal Blade would do well in there.

After all, who doesn't want +2/+10? And she's not too bad of a beater herself, which I think a little bit of melee support would go a long way in that band. Also, her defender combined with the the SA's "Ranged Defender" could be nice.

And against those pesky TBAs, one shot of +4 DEF could go along way (sorry storm, no EB love for you...)

Oh yeah, and Improved Initiative...

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08/12/2008 10:02 AM  
Elf Arcane Archer would do well in place of the LSC methink.

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08/12/2008 10:41 AM  
Posted By mege on 08/12/2008 10:02 AM
Elf Arcane Archer would do well in place of the LSC methink.

EAA would do well, but that would drop your highest champion rating down to 2, which greatly decreases your chances of winning map. Unfortunately, I think this band would need a strong map to really do well...

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08/12/2008 6:33 PM  
Posted By Vrecknidj on 08/12/2008 5:18 AM
Posted By FriendlyAlienist on 08/12/2008 2:38 AM
Well, I'd rate it illegal... Lyrandar is a Half-Elf, not Human or Elf, so Storm's Warband Building does not work.


Indeed.  Unless there's a rules change at some point, the Half-Elf pieces do not benefit from pieces like Storm or the Warhorse.

Dave


Ya sorry about that I guess someone should tell bifur guys about that error. I used bifur and it lets you add the skyfire captian...
Either swap the FB or put an EB in then for map controll...

okok here how bout this one then

Storm Silverhand(57)
Frenzied Berserker(52)
Storm Archer(33)
Storm Archer(33)
Merchant Guard(8)
Elf Archer(5)
Farmer(3)
Farmer(3)
Farmer(3)
Farmer(3)

Flooded ruins


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08/12/2008 7:40 PM  
I like the FB band better... or maybe downgrade to something else and turn two farmers and 2pts into another merchant guard... you're gonna need it.

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08/12/2008 7:50 PM  
I don't like the FB with ranged bands. After all, with a ranged band you *want* to avoid the enemy; with the FB, you lose 10 hp for every round you don't engage the enemy.

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08/13/2008 9:13 PM  

hey kingslurr,here's a mix of some of thee above bands.

 

Storm Silverhand(57),
Runecarved Eidolon(52),
Storm Archer(33),
Storm Archer(33),
Elf Archer(5),
Elf Archer(5),
Elf Archer(5),
Elf Archer(5),
Elf Archer(5),

Flooded Ruin

With both buffs the Storm Archers would be +18/20 and the Elf Archers would be +12/14 for 20 dam.Not to bad me thinks.


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kingslurr
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08/16/2008 4:29 PM  
Ya only have one storm archer lewddriud :P Ya i know I told ya to do something like that when I beats ya with my Storm archer warband :D...


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08/17/2008 8:59 AM  
I actually have 2 Storm Archers but no Storm Silverhand. I was suggesting this band for you since you started this thread. I have my own Storm Archer band, I'm sure you'll meet it one day. :-D

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