CarrionCrawler
Underboss
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CarrionCrawler
Underboss
1760 Posts
| | 05/24/2005 7:17 PM |
| | There's many a debate still brewing about powerful build...it depends on your DM. | |
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Knight of Argenis
Corim Danex
Warlord
6809 Posts
West Valley City, Utah
| | 05/24/2005 8:00 PM |
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Originally posted by CarrionCrawler
There's many a debate still brewing about powerful build...it depends on your DM.
What are the debates, then? (Briefly) | |
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Oni
Underboss
1131 Posts
| | 05/24/2005 8:25 PM |
| | I hope they side with no as I do. Although I say that from the view point of a DM who hates that PrC in the first place. | |
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Testament
Underboss
1397 Posts
| | 05/25/2005 11:55 PM |
| I don't think that Powerful Build should allow you to qualify for Hulking Hurler.
Of course, I also think any GM that allows this PrC is high. Kicking out 300d6 damage a round, reflex for half is just WRONG. Of course, I don't know your GM, so I don't know what sort of game they're running. The fact that they've allowed Racial Substitution levels turns me off straight away. | |
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Mrfurious
Warrior
344 Posts
| | 05/26/2005 12:40 PM |
| | Yeah, it is pretty sick how much damage they do. And all they need is really big rocks or chunks of steel to do it. No need "wasting" precious gold on weapons. | |
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Ghendar
Warlord
12477 Posts
The G Spot
| | 05/26/2005 12:50 PM |
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Originally posted by kestrel.ca
(I'm working from memory here, so be tolerant if I err).
Background: Enjoying Races of Stone, and I'm playing a Goliath Barbarian with the racial substitution granting me Mountain Rage which increases my size to large when raging. (All offense, no defense!)
Gonna take the Frenzied Berserker Prestige Class?
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kestrel.ca
Underboss
1684 Posts
| | 05/26/2005 3:10 PM |
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Originally posted by Ghendar
Gonna take the Frenzied Berserker Prestige Class?
Holy [:0]
I'll have to look at it again. It might be a good second option if I can't/don't do the warhulk. Then again, considering how often this PC plays (~3 hours/month) it'll be a long time before I'm even in a position to work on Prestige Classes. [:(] | |
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lurch_E_bean
Underboss
1058 Posts
| | 05/27/2005 2:14 PM |
| I think everyone is getting the Warhulk and Hulking Hurler mixed up. Hulking Hurler is the one with a thread on the WotC forums containing a build that does like a trillion damage or something stupid big like that. Warhulk is the one that gets +2 str every level instead of attack bonus, which is also sickeningly nuts. You can get some huge damage, but remember, not getting extra attack bonus means no extra attacks, so you're going to lose out on one or two attacks per full attack.
I'm not sure about the Goliath using powerful build to qualify for Warhulk. I could probably argue either way. | |
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Master Peon
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Warlord
5699 Posts
| | 05/27/2005 2:51 PM |
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Originally posted by kestrel.ca
I'm toying with the idea of trying for the Warhulk PrC. IIRC, one of the pre-req's is size large. Does the Goliath's Powerful Build feature apply (ie. meet the requirement), or would I only be able to benefit when raging (and thus large)?
You can house rule anything you would like, but I would say it does not meet the pre-req for the warhulk. I have used an Attatch Warhulk as a villian (talk about cruel). I would love to see one for DDM | |
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Master Peon
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Warlord
5699 Posts
| | 05/27/2005 2:54 PM |
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Originally posted by lurch_E_bean
Warhulk is the one that gets +2 str every level instead of attack bonus, which is also sickeningly nuts. You can get some huge damage, but remember, not getting extra attack bonus means no extra attacks, so you're going to lose out on one or two attacks per full attack.
You also gain abilities to hit into muttiple spaces so it makes up for not getting extra attacks. You make 1 (or more) attack but hit evey creature in 3 connected spaces, and that bost in STR gets you bonus to hit and DAMAGE. | |
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Fry
Underboss
1724 Posts
| | 05/27/2005 4:21 PM |
| | IIRC, from reading the definition of Powerful Build, it doesn't actually make you large, it just grants you the benefits of being large for certain kinds of checks. So, being just a Goliath won't qualify you for being a warhulk. Now, I haven't read the Mountain Rage feat, so I don't know if it actually makes you size large or not. In either event, it's probably up to your DM if being large while raging is enough to qualify you for a PrC that has a requirement of being Large size. I know for things like feats, you can take them if you only meet the prerequisites some times (example, you need the strength boost from raging to get your STR up enough for XXX feat), but then you only get the benefits of the feat while you meet the prereqs. I'm not sure how you'd work that for conditionally meeting the prereqs for a PrC. | |
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kestrel.ca
Underboss
1684 Posts
| | 05/27/2005 11:03 PM |
| Yeah, I was thinking (before I re-read the PrC description) that I might be able to access the Warhulk's abilities only while raging (and thus large size). However, as I look at the PrC, and see that there's no Base Attack Bonus progression, it would be tough to justify only gaining the strength increase (quasi-BAB) while raging. I wouldn't have had a problem accessing the sweep attacks only when raging, but the way the rest of it probably works makes it less appealing.
I don't think I want to go quite as far as Frenzied Berserker -- too much loss of control. I'm thinking now of taking a closer look at the Bear Warrior (we've got the minis for it now!). | |
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