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Originally posted by gregreid

My players roll 4d6, rerolling all 1s, dropping the low, seven times using the best 6 scores assigned as they want to.

You end up with a strong character but not that many 18s.

This has worked well for me for years.

Greg

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Originally posted by reezel

Finally, one of our group members came up with 3d6, drop one die, add 6. It raises the minimum drastically and we all seem to appreciate it.

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Originally posted by Frostbyte


I don't think point buy leads to everyone having an 18. Even with wizards I play usually begin with a 16. The price you pay for getting that 18 is even worse hit points, AC, and Reflex save. I generally prefer going with Dex 14, Con 14 and Int 16 than Dex 10, Con 12 and Int 18. My point is that different people choose to play more or less conservatively, and thus there is in fact some variance.

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If I couldn't use point buy I would like to try a genetic approach. You determine your parent's stats (with whatever means you like) then roll d4 to see which one you inherit. A one means you get your father's stat, a two means you get your mother's, a three means you take their average, and a four means you roll 4d6 and drop one. This is kind of a "fun" way to generate stats, but you wouldn't want to make all of your characters like that.

If I ever finish making my homebrew setting and publish it, I think I will include this as a variant form of generating stats.

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Originally posted by Fry

The 2E players handbook had something like 10 different ways to determine stats. One you might try could be

Roll 10 individual d6s. Each stat starts at 8. Add the individual die rolls to stats as you see fit; however, the stats cannot go above 18, and if you can't make your total add to exactly 18, you can't have an 18.

For lower power, you could reduce the number of dice to 8 or drop the baseline stat to 7.

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Originally posted by Pale Rider

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Originally posted by gregreid

My players roll 4d6, rerolling all 1s, dropping the low, seven times using the best 6 scores assigned as they want to.

You end up with a strong character but not that many 18s.

This has worked well for me for years.

Greg

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That would seem, to me, to make characters a little too strong. I want a nice happy medium where characters have both high and low scores. I don't think you would ever see anyone with a stat below 12 in such a method.

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Originally posted by Pale Rider

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Originally posted by gregreid

My players roll 4d6, rerolling all 1s, dropping the low, seven times using the best 6 scores assigned as they want to.

You end up with a strong character but not that many 18s.

This has worked well for me for years.

Greg

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That would seem, to me, to make characters a little too strong. I want a nice happy medium where characters have both high and low scores. I don't think you would ever see anyone with a stat below 12 in such a method.

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Originally posted by maijstral

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Originally posted by Pale Rider

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Originally posted by gregreid

My players roll 4d6, rerolling all 1s, dropping the low, seven times using the best 6 scores assigned as they want to.

You end up with a strong character but not that many 18s.

This has worked well for me for years.

Greg

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That would seem, to me, to make characters a little too strong. I want a nice happy medium where characters have both high and low scores. I don't think you would ever see anyone with a stat below 12 in such a method.

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My players roll 4d6 6 times dropping the lowest. They do this 3 times and pick whatever set of six they want, to be clear they do not pick and choose which of the 36 rolls they want they pick one of the 3 sets of six. It averages out but if you get a really crappy run you can just pick a different set. After they have picked there set I let them reroll the lowest number but they have to keep the reroll even if its worse.

It has worked well for the last 5 years. Most of the time there is one good stat one bad one and 4 around average.

The PC's are hero's in there world so I think their stats should be higher than average.

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Originally posted by Frostbyte

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Originally posted by reezel

Finally, one of our group members came up with 3d6, drop one die, add 6. It raises the minimum drastically and we all seem to appreciate it.

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The average for that should be something like 13 1/2. The average for 4d6 and dropping one is about 12, if I recall correctly. That's a little higher in power than I would like.

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Originally posted by Ghendar

I play in this group and I like this method. What player wouldn't?

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Originally posted by Ghendar

I'm of the belief that heroes should have higher stats. That's why they are heroes.

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Originally posted by Snappa

I use the point buy system in the DMG with the "tougher" option (28 points to spend). For a human character this can generate the following sets of stats:

15 14 12 12 12 10
16 14 14 10 10 10
18 12 12 10 10 8
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This gives the player the option to min/max their prime stat if they want at the expense of other bonuses. It also ensures that everyone starts on an even footing, and eliminates the imbalance between someone who rolls 3 16+ and someone who doesnt have a stat higher than 13.

If I'm running a game with less than 4 players, I'll bump it up to a 32 point buy to give them a bit more of an edge.

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