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MerricB
Underboss
2353 Posts
    
Australia
 | | 01/19/2006 1:32 AM |
| Noticed these two on Amazon, and I've added them to the upcoming releases list.
Complete Mage is by Ari Marmell and Skip Williams. (Ari's some hack).
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reezel
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555 Posts
| | 01/19/2006 8:16 AM |
| | I knew that them revoking the license to Ravenloft from White-Wolf and Heroes of Horror happening in such a short amount of time was not coincidence. This is awesome. | |
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| | 01/19/2006 11:34 AM |
| | Nice I'd love an updated version of that classic RL adventure. | |
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Lab Monkey
Commander
4136 Posts
| | 01/19/2006 1:38 PM |
| | Complete Mage!?! That's a big surprise. Is this going to be Complete Arcane II? | |
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wildmage
Sneak
123 Posts
| | 01/19/2006 5:39 PM |
| | Wow, first time hearing about Complete Mage. What's up with this? Another new magic system a la Incarnum, Pact/Shadow/True Name, etc.? A guidebook to playing wizards (above and beyond the relevant sections of Complete Arcane)? At this point I'm ambivalent. | |
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Sammael
Underboss
1881 Posts
| | 01/19/2006 5:54 PM |
| As I posted on ENWorld, I think the Complete Mage will be a supplemental book for optional magic classes and rules introduced in the past couple of years. I'd expect it to contain: Incantations (Unearthed Arcana), Hexblade stuff (Complete Warrior), Warlock Invocations and Warmage options (Complete Arcane), Incarnum, and so on.
I have hopes for Castle Ravenloft. I doubt it's an adventure, since it's 160 pages. It should work great both as a mini-gothic horror setting, and as a detailed subsection of the Demiplane of Dread. | |
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IanB
Commander
3112 Posts
| | 01/19/2006 6:20 PM |
| | To me, the best possible thing they could do with Ravenloft is to ditch the whole "separate demiplane" idea entirely. I always hated that mechanic, it felt really forced. | |
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devasque
Sergeant
874 Posts
| | 01/19/2006 6:24 PM |
| Complete Mage - After Complete Arcane, Incarnum and the upcoming Pact/Shadow/True Naming books I'm loath to think why they drummed this up. Unless it offers something truely 'wow', new or different I'll pass and save my greenbacks.
Castle Ravenloft - At 160 pages I hope we get the updated adventure at least as an inclusive chapter at the end of it. Would be a hoot to run that one outside of 2E when I first played it. | |
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Monsoon28
Underboss
2313 Posts
Toronto
| | 01/19/2006 7:00 PM |
| | When did they add these I just checked on Wednesday and nothing!? That's what I get when I take a day off from my obsession! [:D] | |
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Scarecrow
Sergeant
788 Posts
| | 01/19/2006 9:19 PM |
| | Great news, very intriguing. An updated Ravenloft is something to really look forward too. As much as I liked Heroes of Horror, it did seem lacking in places. Ravenloft might be able to fill those gaps. | |
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Omand
Commander
3120 Posts
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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CarrionCrawler
Underboss
1760 Posts
| | 01/20/2006 9:28 PM |
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WTF?!!? COMPLETE MAGE????? Has Wizards completely gone off the deep end? Do they read every stupid thread on the Wizard boards and think that if someone whines and makes a 30 page thread that they should make a book about it? They looked at that Complete Warlock nonsense and decided that it would make a cool book? I'm paralyzing myself with my own tentacles over here!
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reezel
Sergeant
555 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 8:13 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by CarrionCrawler
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WTF?!!? COMPLETE MAGE????? Has Wizards completely gone off the deep end? Do they read every stupid thread on the Wizard boards and think that if someone whines and makes a 30 page thread that they should make a book about it? They looked at that Complete Warlock nonsense and decided that it would make a cool book? I'm paralyzing myself with my own tentacles over here!
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Ummmm....what? | |
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Monsoon28
Underboss
2313 Posts
Toronto
| | 01/23/2006 4:17 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by reezel
Ummmm....what?
I think he's ranting that we already have a Complete Arcana book so what do we need with another book called Complete Mage?
This is the kind of idea that would likely pop-up at the wizards board, as their always seems to be somebody writing a message along the lines of 'You know what would make for an awesome book?' or 'They should make a book on Ninja's with freakin' laser beams attached to their heads!'
Well you get the idea. | |
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reezel
Sergeant
555 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 4:35 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Monsoon28
I think he's ranting that we already have a Complete Arcana book so what do we need with another book called Complete Mage?
This is the kind of idea that would likely pop-up at the wizards board, as their always seems to be somebody writing a message along the lines of 'You know what would make for an awesome book?' or 'They should make a book on Ninja's with freakin' laser beams attached to their heads!'
Well you get the idea.
I can sort of see that inside that little paragraph, but I am not sure how a Complete Mage has anything to do with what is posted on thier boards. I mean, at the moment we don't even have a clue what exactly is in the book. My guess would be more as a follow up to Complete Arcane with more varied options. I'm not seeing the potential for doom in a book called Complete Mage. | |
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Monsoon28
Underboss
2313 Posts
Toronto
| | 01/23/2006 8:47 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by reezel
I can sort of see that inside that little paragraph, but I am not sure how a Complete Mage has anything to do with what is posted on thier boards. I mean, at the moment we don't even have a clue what exactly is in the book. My guess would be more as a follow up to Complete Arcane with more varied options. I'm not seeing the potential for doom in a book called Complete Mage.
Well when a book is called 'Complete' Arcana you don't expect another book coming out called Complete Mage. But your right we don't actually know what the book is all about. Doesn't stop some people from worrying though. | |
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CarrionCrawler
Underboss
1760 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 11:14 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Monsoon28
quote:
Originally posted by reezel
Ummmm....what?
I think he's ranting that we already have a Complete Arcana book so what do we need with another book called Complete Mage?
This is the kind of idea that would likely pop-up at the wizards board, as their always seems to be somebody writing a message along the lines of 'You know what would make for an awesome book?' or 'They should make a book on Ninja's with freakin' laser beams attached to their heads!'
Well you get the idea.
Yes. Thank you, my friend. That was what I was trying to type... | |
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Monsoon28
Underboss
2313 Posts
Toronto
| | 01/25/2006 5:40 AM |
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Darastrix Maekrix
dariustad
Warlord
6322 Posts
| | 01/25/2006 6:08 AM |
| I'm also a bit leary of "Complete Mage" after the creation of Complete Arcana. It sounds like another book of "cheese" to make mages even more annoying. I won't judge the book this far out, but I can't say I'm entirely pleased it's being made.
I'm almost wondering if this isn't the start of a series of books to cover the 4 essential PC party members: mage, cleric, fighter, rogue. It would certainly follow their current pattern of 4 books per "common title" (i.e. Complete, Races of, etc.) I am only including the main cores, not those added for FR or Eberron.
Complete Ravenloft is something else entirely. However, I will want to see the book before I even consider it. | |
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WakeXX
Warlord
10152 Posts
Edinboro PA
| | 01/25/2006 7:23 AM |
| | Hmm,Complete Ravenloft sounds kinda cool | | | |
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reezel
Sergeant
555 Posts
| | 01/25/2006 8:12 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by WakeXX
Hmm,Complete Ravenloft sounds kinda cool
Wow, we just had a solid case of the game phone here. Somewhere in the post Castle Ravenloft became Complete Ravenloft. | |
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Cthulhufnord
Warlord
10994 Posts
Umass Amherst Baby!
| | 01/25/2006 8:31 AM |
| This Castle Mage sounds intriguing. [)]
All Humor aside I do feel somewhat over-bombarded by D20 supplements. How many books on Mages and Magic are we going to need realy? I'm mostly content to just use the Core Books + Unearthed Arcana. If one of the settings realy appeals to me I'll consider picking up one of those books too. What could be in the Complete Mage that we don't have allready? | |
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reezel
Sergeant
555 Posts
| | 01/25/2006 10:12 AM |
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Originally posted by Cthulhufnord
What could be in the Complete Mage that we don't have allready?
I honestly don't think I will ever say I am done with wizard variations. As long as they stay pretty balanced, which I think they have up to this point, I encourage more of them. The more prestige classes, the more options, the better the game is in my opinion. | |
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