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Fry Underboss
 1724 Posts




 | | 07/07/2005 8:45 AM |
| | recovered topic 5639 | | "Why am I all sticky and naked? Did I miss something fun?" -Vindicated champion of Tordek, Dwarf Champion | |
| Fry Underboss
 1724 Posts




 | | 07/07/2005 8:45 AM |
| | No, no, no. Sidious with Destroyer Droids for extra activations that shield the damage. Battle Droid Officer, single saber grievous to taste. | | "Why am I all sticky and naked? Did I miss something fun?" -Vindicated champion of Tordek, Dwarf Champion | |
| doone Warrior
 262 Posts




 | | 07/07/2005 9:55 AM |
| | for me, Emperor Palpatine from RS...i like to built a warband consisting of vader(rots) and anakin,Sith for the force grip and sith grip...it is almost unlimited and auto damage... | | fight to the end successful trade:(2x)time-bandit,Bloody,litorian,romers,(2x)lecanZ,nixlord,kumag,ilarue,bugsy,robby,kypdurron,Shadow Lord, llyrsln,nyjastul69,Alakhai
pending:
http://www.maxminis.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=566 http://www.maxminis.com/hwlist.asp?user=doone
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| Cervantes Sneak
 133 Posts




 | | 07/07/2005 3:40 PM |
| | But isn't Sith Ani counted as Darth Vader? | | To err is Human, To arr is Pirate | |
| Kumag Sergeant
 454 Posts



 The Philippines
 | | 07/07/2005 6:28 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Fry
No, no, no. Sidious with Destroyer Droids for extra activations that shield the damage. Battle Droid Officer, single saber grievous to taste.
That's a great idea! On the other hand, Dwarf spider's 30 damage attack is also very nice and the spider costs only half as much as the destroyer.
Would definitely try the Destroyer though. Is it what they call in the WotC forums "Seek and Destroy"? Now I will have to go back to the trading boards again...argh!
| | Successful int'l trades(39): UK, time-bandit, Darkfather, smetzger, Kithmaker, thedip, tev, minatoman38 x3, Tasmanian_Tiger, chaoticgood, Tysac, Maniacal Mini Monger x2, Brucemc, Schooly_D, GreyOne, mnpatsfan, -Lance-, Wraith428, Shadowlord, Thailfi, TheDoctor, Siddartha of Suburbia, Feratu, Zeoph, elfinboots, Thatoneguy, Avrivah, sam500, WakeXX, Darrell, sfgiants, tyngfumv, stephengroy, gaarew, Kensei, Monolthicus
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| Kumag Sergeant
 454 Posts



 The Philippines
 | | 07/07/2005 6:38 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Cervantes
But isn't Sith Ani counted as Darth Vader?
Yes, if we'll follow what was "recommended" in Jedi Counseling #68, which says Dooku can't be used with Tyranus either.
So who's your Palpy? [:p] | | Successful int'l trades(39): UK, time-bandit, Darkfather, smetzger, Kithmaker, thedip, tev, minatoman38 x3, Tasmanian_Tiger, chaoticgood, Tysac, Maniacal Mini Monger x2, Brucemc, Schooly_D, GreyOne, mnpatsfan, -Lance-, Wraith428, Shadowlord, Thailfi, TheDoctor, Siddartha of Suburbia, Feratu, Zeoph, elfinboots, Thatoneguy, Avrivah, sam500, WakeXX, Darrell, sfgiants, tyngfumv, stephengroy, gaarew, Kensei, Monolthicus
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| mordantos Underboss
 1210 Posts




 | | 07/07/2005 7:08 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Kumag
quote: Originally posted by Cervantes
But isn't Sith Ani counted as Darth Vader?
Yes, if we'll follow what was "recommended" in Jedi Counseling #68, which says Dooku can't be used with Tyranus either.
Unlike the situation with Dooku/Tyranus, Sith Anakin's card actually says that he counts as Darth Vader.
For me, choosing a Paply would be like chosing one of my children... if I had children. [)] I love Sidious' synergy with destroyer droids (shields baby, shields!), and I love Sith Lord's betrayal (we keep a running tally of Betrayals at our League...Disintegrations, also) as well as the general arse kicking ability. I like the Rebel Storm version too- the original Darkside Duracell [:D] | | | |
|  Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
 11001 Posts



 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 07/07/2005 7:31 PM |
| | I've just got Sidius myself, generaly I team him up with Tyrannus and Sly Moore. A combo that allows me to Sith Lightning with Tyranus twice a turn. [:D] | | Pathetic Earthlings. Hurling your bodies out into the void - without the slightest inkling of who or what is out here. If you had known anything about the true nature of the universe - anything at all - you would have hidden from it in terror. | |
| mordantos Underboss
 1210 Posts




 | | 07/07/2005 8:54 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Cthulhufnord
I've just got Sidius myself, generaly I team him up with Tyrannus and Sly Moore. A combo that allows me to Sith Lightning with Tyranus twice a turn. [:D]
..if Tyranus fails his save. [V] | | | |
| Kumag Sergeant
 454 Posts



 The Philippines
 | | 07/07/2005 9:40 PM |
| quote: Unlike the situation with Dooku/Tyranus, Sith Anakin's card actually says that he counts as Darth Vader.
Oops! Didn't see that...boy it's hard to be an SWM newbie [:)].
So has anyone of you seen a Palpatine Sith Lord fail a Betrayal Save before (would he be affected at all?)? That would be nice... | | Successful int'l trades(39): UK, time-bandit, Darkfather, smetzger, Kithmaker, thedip, tev, minatoman38 x3, Tasmanian_Tiger, chaoticgood, Tysac, Maniacal Mini Monger x2, Brucemc, Schooly_D, GreyOne, mnpatsfan, -Lance-, Wraith428, Shadowlord, Thailfi, TheDoctor, Siddartha of Suburbia, Feratu, Zeoph, elfinboots, Thatoneguy, Avrivah, sam500, WakeXX, Darrell, sfgiants, tyngfumv, stephengroy, gaarew, Kensei, Monolthicus
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| Sean-Khan Commander
 2723 Posts




 | | mordantos Underboss
 1210 Posts




 | | 07/08/2005 1:51 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Sean-Khan
Let's suppose that Vader (Dark Jedi) would turn on Palpatine (Sith Lord). Then, one of the stormtroopers under Vader's command rolls 1 - what happens?
Well, when Darth Vader, Dark Jedi rolls a 1 against Emperor Palpatine, Sith Lord he joins that Palpatines squad. So, his new squad becomes subject to his command effect, and everything proceeds normally.
From reading the WotC FAQ* it looks like Darth Vader would take his Commander Effect bonus with him. That is- if two Stormtroopers (or any ally without a force rating) had failed Vader prior to his betrayal, the new squad (Palpy) would get +4 as soon as Vader joined them (those without Force Ratings).
*look under Darth Vader, Dark Jedi and the question about gaining reinforcements | | | |
| Cervantes Sneak
 133 Posts




 | | 07/08/2005 2:09 PM |
| | As for my choice of Palpys, i'll go with the one i just recently pulled from a booster, RS Palpatine. | | To err is Human, To arr is Pirate | |
| Sean-Khan Commander
 2723 Posts




 | | 07/08/2005 2:51 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by mordantos Well, when Darth Vader, Dark Jedi rolls a 1 against Emperor Palpatine, Sith Lord he joins that Palpatines squad. So, his new squad becomes subject to his command effect, and everything proceeds normally.
From reading the WotC FAQ* it looks like Darth Vader would take his Commander Effect bonus with him. That is- if two Stormtroopers (or any ally without a force rating) had failed Vader prior to his betrayal, the new squad (Palpy) would get +4 as soon as Vader joined them (those without Force Ratings).
*look under Darth Vader, Dark Jedi and the question about gaining reinforcements
No, I meant that what if a stormtrooper under Vader's command rolled 1. Is he eliminated immediately, or does he jump to the emperor's side, or does he jump on the emperor's side and get eliminated then, or... | | Vindicated AtG Called shot: 2nd Huge Red Dragon My collected trade reference links Star Wars tactical combat -project My modelling/terrain pages Suomen miniatyyrikeräilijät / Miniature collectors of Finland | |
| mordantos Underboss
 1210 Posts




 | | 07/08/2005 6:28 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Sean-Khan No, I meant that what if a stormtrooper under Vader's command rolled 1. Is he eliminated immediately, or does he jump to the emperor's side, or does he jump on the emperor's side and get eliminated then, or...
Okay, so you are asking "What if a stormtrooper (in a squad with Darth Vader, Dark Jedi in it) rolled a one while attacking Emperor Palpatine, Sith Lord? Does the stormtrooper get defeated or join Palpatine's squad first?"
Hmm. Good question. I can't find anything directly on point, but don't have access to the latest rulebook (darn WotC for not putting the RotS Rulebook in pdf format [V]) nor access to the WotC site (darn firewalls [)]) | | | |
| mordantos Underboss
 1210 Posts




 | | 07/10/2005 5:13 AM |
| Turns out Guy answered the question back in May: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=436451
"Both events (Vader's CE and Betrayal) are triggered when the 1 is rolled. Both must be resolved; the attacker will end up defeated, and the attacker will end up on Palpatine's squad. The only choice you have is which one to resolve first, but that doesn't change the fact that the attacker will end up being defeated."
to which someone followed up: "Seeing as you choose which to resolve first, anyone in their right mind would resolve Vaders first and take the +2. That leaves the emperor with a dead piece that is worth nothing." | | | |
| Sean-Khan Commander
 2723 Posts




 | | Darthrau Underboss
 2233 Posts




 | | 07/10/2005 5:46 PM |
| | Yep | | Champion of Jarlaxle Sets: Star Wars Year one complete,44/60 Champions of the Force,0/60 Bounty Hunters | |
| Kumag Sergeant
 454 Posts



 The Philippines
 | | 07/10/2005 8:41 PM |
| How about this: What if Palpy Sith Lord rolls a 1 when attacking an opposing Palpy Sith Lord?
Will one Sith Lord be destroyed once it joins the other's squad?Unique restrictions say that you can only have one of the named Unique character in your squad. What do you guys think?
| | Successful int'l trades(39): UK, time-bandit, Darkfather, smetzger, Kithmaker, thedip, tev, minatoman38 x3, Tasmanian_Tiger, chaoticgood, Tysac, Maniacal Mini Monger x2, Brucemc, Schooly_D, GreyOne, mnpatsfan, -Lance-, Wraith428, Shadowlord, Thailfi, TheDoctor, Siddartha of Suburbia, Feratu, Zeoph, elfinboots, Thatoneguy, Avrivah, sam500, WakeXX, Darrell, sfgiants, tyngfumv, stephengroy, gaarew, Kensei, Monolthicus
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| Sean-Khan Commander
 2723 Posts




 | | mordantos Underboss
 1210 Posts




 | | 07/11/2005 2:24 PM |
| quote: Originally posted by Kumag
Unique restrictions say that you can only have one of the named Unique character in your squad.
I would say that would fall under build restrictions, and be ignored once you have a legal squad and play has started. Same thing with Factions. | | | |
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