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sienar
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 | | 01/23/2006 1:20 PM |
| What do you guys think of the idea of doing a team championship? We could use the Open top 5 (5 makes determining a winner easier than 4), or the top 5 DCI rated, or just pick 5 from a region. It would be up to everybody to determine what regions to break out and who to represent them. Do a league, seed the teams based on, say, average DCI score (it's the only thing we've got).
Each team has seeds 1 through 5. #1 Seed plays other team's #1 seed, and so on. Winner of 3 matches wins. Team plays next team in bracket. Winning team gets... respect, money, fan girls/boys... We can figure that out.
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lynchpt
Sergeant
930 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 2:00 PM |
| So, are you suggesting that players from regions (like Rocky Mountain, New England, Middle Atlantic, etc) get together and somehow nominate or determine through tournaments teams of 5 players from their region? Then that team plays the team from another region and so on as you suggest? I assume this would be via Vassal. If so, there would need to be some logistics to make sure the players were only playing their own matches, and not kibbutzing with their teammate.
It sounds like a lot of fun. I have little doubt that New England could scrape together 5 willing participants!
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 2:01 PM |
| Well considering that Florida has the strongest DCI contigent in the world, I don't think it would be a problem for us to win. [)]
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kgradert13
Sergeant
909 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 2:10 PM |
| Sounds like it would be fun
Too bad I'm not top 5 in my state, let alone region :) | |
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lynchpt
Sergeant
930 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 2:32 PM |
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Originally posted by ChristopherGroves
I think it'd be fun ... some of the smaller regions might have trouble getting 5 though.
I also want to do a MaxMini's Vassal 200/constructed tournament. Got a prize picked out and everything, wondering if I can talk Ian into sanctioning something ...
Although it is well known that I love sanctioned play, I really don't think sanctioning Vassal matches is a great idea. It is impossible to avoid cheating (having your friends over your shoulder giving advice), and I'd hate to see it have any negative impact on FLGSs that currently run tournaments. Many of these venues must charge to run tournaments, and perhaps some people would forgo those for the "free" tournaments online. Local tournaments can sometimes attract new players in to the game while online tournaments preach to the choir.
That said, I do think that organized (not sanctioned) tournaments on Vassal (such as Dagni is starting) is an idea whose time has come. Good luck.
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lynchpt
Sergeant
930 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 2:39 PM |
| Regarding regions, rather than having players spend a lot of electrons trying to come up with the "right" set of regions, how about using one of the "standard" sets of regions found in wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_of_the_United_States. Here is one example that is appropriate because it has an even number of regions.;
Standard Federal Regions
Standard Federal Regions
The ten standard Federal Regions were established by OMB (Office of Management and Budget) Circular A-105, "Standard Federal Regions," in April, 1974, and required for all executive agencies. In recent years, some agencies have tailored their field structures to meet program needs and facilitate interaction with local, state and regional counterparts. The OMB must still approve any departures, however.
Region I: Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Vermont
Region II: New Jersey, New York, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands
Region III: Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia
Region IV: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee
Region V: Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, Wisconsin
Region VI: Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mexico, Texas, Oklahoma
Region VII: Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska
Region VIII: Colorado, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, Wyoming
Region IX: Arizona, California, Hawaii, Nevada (American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands)
Region X: Alaska, Idaho, Oregon, Washington
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 2:59 PM |
| | Jeeze, Region IV is big. | |
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Kiddoc
Underboss
1797 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 3:13 PM |
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Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
Jeeze, Region IV is big.
No kidding. Here's my vote for secession. North Carolina hereby withdraws from Region IV. I'll miss Jesse, Bill, and others, but we just have nothing in common with those beach-bum, margaritaville, perma-tan, flip-flop-in-the-winter-wearing hippies. [:D]
If Chris Groves can carry the dead weight, we'll happily carry NC.
Actually, if you guys recall, many-many moons ago, my FLGS held a team sealed tournament. It was a TON of fun. We just pooled the contents of the boosters and made 2 warbands. The level of 'strategery' (to borrow a phrase) was insane. Just choosing whether to maximize your wins by giving the best player the strongest band, or to try and even things out by giving the weaker player the stronger band was a tough decision.
I'd support any type of team play. Heck, I might even come out of constructed-retirement (at least after boards are finished in March) to play in such an event. Team limited holds more appeal to me (anyone having done Magic:The Gathering team limited events can speak to that), but I'm all for either option.
Oh, and a big fat: "No" to sanctioning Vassal tourneys--even special ones. We have enough problems with people and their DCI ratings. Heck, anyone over 2000 has to be finagling the system somehow... [:p]
But if sanctioned vassal tourneys do go through, I'll be here for you. For the low, low price of $1.00 per activation during a match I happily volunteer log into your account and take your 1500 rating to at least uh... 1600! That's 100 DCI points, think of the GLORY! Women everywhere will swoon, and men will envy your prowess--all for the price of a cup of (starbucks) coffee per day. Kiddoc is here for your lads, Kiddoc is here. | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 3:18 PM |
| Wow, what a great.. thing... I've always wanted DCI rating of 1600!
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sienar
Sergeant
640 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 3:21 PM |
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Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
Jeeze, Region IV is big.
We could go with Regions like this, or just define our own. Colorado could send a contingent, as could Utah, SoCal, etc. We can define the regions as big or as small as we want. We could try and set the field to 32 teams, using Sam's (or somebody else if they have been maintaining it) by-state player info to help break things out. The 10 Pat listed could work just fine, but it would really be nice if we can get a 2^n field.
If we went with those regions (or any set-up, for that matter), would the fairest thing to do be try and locate the top 5 by DCI rating that are willing to participate? Find the top 5 rated willing participants and go with that?
Sanctioning? Probably not. I'd be afraid to try and sanction Vassal games for the reasons previously listed. This would be for bragging rights more than anything. Maybe some repaints to the winning team...
Strongest, Jesse? phsah! That's exactly the kind of talk that made me think of this. This way, after we in the flyover states kick your butts, we'd know you guys have a host of fake names down there to help boost your ratings! [:D]
(Just in case the smily is not enough - the fake name comment is totally not in seriousness) | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 3:26 PM |
| That would be slightly more believable if my rating had changed at all since Gen Con. ;)
It would be nice if local tournament organizers would actually report our tournaments.
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Felagund
Sergeant
922 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 5:29 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by sienar
If we went with those regions (or any set-up, for that matter), would the fairest thing to do be try and locate the top 5 by DCI rating that are willing to participate? Find the top 5 rated willing participants and go with that?
Sanctioning? Probably not. I'd be afraid to try and sanction Vassal games for the reasons previously listed. This would be for bragging rights more than anything. Maybe some repaints to the winning team...
If we did go off DCI for picking the top 5, would they be seeded in DCI order, or would the team be allowed to determine the seeding for themselves? And in regards to the regions, shouldn't we be neighborly and let the Canadians join in? Though I imagine Montreal alone has enough quality players for about 3 teams...
I'd be against sanctioning if it's on VASSAL. That dicebot is just a bit too fickle for my taste. Plus, I can't afford to hire Kiddoc.
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sienar
Sergeant
640 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 5:36 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Felagund
quote:
Originally posted by sienar
If we went with those regions (or any set-up, for that matter), would the fairest thing to do be try and locate the top 5 by DCI rating that are willing to participate? Find the top 5 rated willing participants and go with that?
Sanctioning? Probably not. I'd be afraid to try and sanction Vassal games for the reasons previously listed. This would be for bragging rights more than anything. Maybe some repaints to the winning team...
If we did go off DCI for picking the top 5, would they be seeded in DCI order, or would the team be allowed to determine the seeding for themselves? And in regards to the regions, shouldn't we be neighborly and let the Canadians join in? Though I imagine Montreal alone has enough quality players for about 3 teams...
I'd be against sanctioning if it's on VASSAL. That dicebot is just a bit too fickle for my taste. Plus, I can't afford to hire Kiddoc.
Don't really know. I suppose we just need to come up with regions, players, and then let that group decide their seedings. Then we need a schedule...
Heck, we can invite the Canadiens, the Venezuelans, the South Koreans (potentially a logistical problem), the Europeans (ditto), etc. We don't have to limit it to the US. We could go with the 10 US regions Pat posted and then come up with 6 non-US regions, if we have enough interest outside of the US...
Montreal does, indeed, have the volume for more than one competitive team, as would SoCal, for sure. It wouldn't be fair to have a regional contest and then let multiple teams from one region join, I think... | |
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derry
Warrior
268 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 5:52 PM |
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Originally posted by KiddocActually, if you guys recall, many-many moons ago, my FLGS held a team sealed tournament. It was a TON of fun. We just pooled the contents of the boosters and made 2 warbands. The level of 'strategery' (to borrow a phrase) was insane. Just choosing whether to maximize your wins by giving the best player the strongest band, or to try and even things out by giving the weaker player the stronger band was a tough decision.
I like this idea a lot. Once Wardrums is out, I think we will have an event like this locally. I am not sure how to seed the teams for our local event though. Probably random is best as the new guys can get paired with a strong player possibly. On the downside, paying for more boosters in a non-DCI sanctioned event is not necessarily what the local community wants. | |
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Drakkengi
Sergeant
890 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 5:52 PM |
| | I think it would be more fair to have tournaments to decide who the top 5 from each region are instead of going by DCI rating. Maybe we could even break it up so that there are 5 states in each region and we can have local tournaments to decide who is representing that state in their respective region. | |
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Felagund
Sergeant
922 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 5:57 PM |
| I suppose we could just let the teams define their own regions, so long as there's only one per state/province. If a state has 5 individuals that are willing and able, then they're good. If not, they can borrow from a neighboring state/province.
Not sure about the bracketing idea, though. Really, who wants to be the sacrificial lamb that has to go up against California first? | |
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sienar
Sergeant
640 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 6:16 PM |
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Originally posted by Felagund
Not sure about the bracketing idea, though. Really, who wants to be the sacrificial lamb that has to go up against California first?
That's why I was thinking of using the average DCI rating of the team. It may not be perfect, but it is the only measurable thing we have to go by. Either that, or you'd have to trust me to be fair in pairing/seeding. [}:)]
I'm less keen on the tournament to determine participants. That seems like quite a bit more effort. I suppose we could figure out the regions and then let each decide how they set their participants and seedings. I do want video footage of the region that chooses rochambeaux. | |
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sienar
Sergeant
640 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 6:21 PM |
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Originally posted by Drakkengi
I think it would be more fair to have tournaments to decide who the top 5 from each region are instead of going by DCI rating. Maybe we could even break it up so that there are 5 states in each region and we can have local tournaments to decide who is representing that state in their respective region.
Perhaps setting the regions would be the first step. Determining how to set up the regions would come first. Poll?
A) 10 regions as defined by wikipedia plus up to 6 non-US
B) 16 regions based on proximity/volume of players
C) 32 regions based on proximity/volume of players
D) 5 states per region (defined by proximity) plus up to 6 non-US
E) You dumba$$! You really should break it out... (please define) | |
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Felagund
Sergeant
922 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 6:39 PM |
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Originally posted by sienar
[quote]Originally posted by Felagund
That's why I was thinking of using the average DCI rating of the team. It may not be perfect, but it is the only measurable thing we have to go by. Either that, or you'd have to trust me to be fair in pairing/seeding. [}:)]
So the team with the highest average DCI rating would play the team with the lowest average DCI rating, 2nd highest vs. 2nd lowest, and so on? Also, will there be a loser's bracket?
Another thing to think about is whether players will have to stick with a warband throughout the tournament, or if they can switch between matches. | |
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IanB
Commander
3112 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 9:32 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by Felagund
I suppose we could just let the teams define their own regions, so long as there's only one per state/province. If a state has 5 individuals that are willing and able, then they're good. If not, they can borrow from a neighboring state/province.
Not sure about the bracketing idea, though. Really, who wants to be the sacrificial lamb that has to go up against California first?
One per state ignores some issues of geography and population; I think you could pretty easily split Northern and Southern California into 2 teams. The trash talking is better that way anyway. | |
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Kiddoc
Underboss
1797 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 9:38 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by sienar
quote:
Originally posted by Drakkengi
I think it would be more fair to have tournaments to decide who the top 5 from each region are instead of going by DCI rating. Maybe we could even break it up so that there are 5 states in each region and we can have local tournaments to decide who is representing that state in their respective region.
Perhaps setting the regions would be the first step. Determining how to set up the regions would come first. Poll?
A) 10 regions as defined by wikipedia plus up to 6 non-US
B) 16 regions based on proximity/volume of players
C) 32 regions based on proximity/volume of players
D) 5 states per region (defined by proximity) plus up to 6 non-US
E) You dumba$$! You really should break it out... (please define)
I vote for F
We use the BCS formula and a bowl system to determine seedings. It's the "only fair way in mixed levels of competitiveness" after all.
I'll vote for A or B, because both of them leave some people out. Nothing says amusement to me like "Survivor: D&D Minis--Don't be the first to get voted off your regional team!" It'll be a competition within a competition. We can have lobbying, campaigns, secret ballots... Good times.
EDIT: Okay, thinking back on this--can we trade states? I'd like to strike a deal with Region II. Who is their agent? Region IV proposes trading Mississippi, South Carolina, and Tennessee for Pennsylvania and a 3rd round pick next year.
EDIT, EDIT: Crazy idea. How about a fantasy draft? Can we appoint "Team Managers" (i.e., something for washed-up skirmishers like me to do instead of getting my team killed). Then we can draft players based on a random order? We'll give our team new names, and the community can pick teams to win and score points along with us? I bet Jai could write a simple point-tracking script in like 2 seconds. Or better yet, we could have an auction draft. Team Managers have only so much money to work with, and starting prices for players are equal to DCI scores? Kills the "regional" flavor of things, but sounds like a lot of fun. [:D] Just a thought. Maybe I shouldn't have had 5-day-old fried chicken for lunch. | |
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kgradert13
Sergeant
909 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 9:55 PM |
| Fantasy DDM....I like the sound of that.
"I'll trade your Dagni and Fenris for guyf and the exclusive rights to the Gaze - ALL DAY warband"
On a more serious note, I think I may try to organize something similiar to this amongst the 3 LGS here if I can. 3-5 per team for bragging rights.
And I like State by state, with province by province. If a state can't come up with 5, they can combine with an adjacent state. We'd probably be looking at about 30 teams, maybe more, maybe a few less. | |
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ChristopherGroves
Warlord
6093 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 9:56 PM |
| Yeah those federal regions are odd. NC, FL and GA ... that's the Atlanta Crew (MarkDragon, SharnInquisitor, etc.), the Florida crew (Jesse / lalato / shinobi / bill / etc.) and both the Raleigh and Charlotte area play groups. Yikes.
I do like team sealed. That is all kinds of fun.
If we were to look at "major areas" we could identify a few hotspots. Lemme brainstorm.
New England
Minnesota
Midwest (IL, OH)
Southwest (AZ, Utah, New Mexico)
Florida
Virginia / DC area
NC (both Charlotte and Raleigh added together)
UK
Main-land EU
Pacific Northwest (Seattle/Portland/Vancouver)
Toronto Area
Montreal Area
Can-West
PEI / Nova Scotia
SoCal
NorCal
Oz
Colorado
Phillipines
Koreas / Singapore / Malaysia
South America
Deeper-south (GA, AL, LA, TX)
Did I miss any of the other large regions? How could we group these? This is like 20 groups that could probably field a decent 4 (or more) person team ... jiminy that's alot of folks. | |
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Kiddoc
Underboss
1797 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 10:06 PM |
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Originally posted by kgradert13
Fantasy DDM....I like the sound of that.
"I'll trade your Dagni and Fenris for guyf and the exclusive rights to the Gaze - ALL DAY warband"
Oooh, if I had the first pick I'd for sure pick Fenris--he's the only guy to make the finals both years eh? Money in the bank. I expect 3 fantasy points per game from him!
Unless of course we're playing salary cap rules. In that case I'm taking the inexpensive, 12-year-old Jeff Santiago from NJ. He's a future prospect, since I'd be building for the long-term in franchise mode. [:D] | |
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 10:32 PM |
| haha
Who would be the team owners? | |
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Kiddoc
Underboss
1797 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 10:38 PM |
| quote:
Originally posted by doubtofbuddha
haha
Who would be the team owners?
Any high-ranking DDM'ers that are too old, washed up, burned out, or chicken to play.
Namely, me. [:D]
Actually, I could see some studmuffin think-tank types or organizer-types reppin' some serious teams.
Maybe folks like Brad Shugg, Mike Derry, etc. Probably anybody with some rep in the game that wants to volunteer to manage instead of play.
Hehe, don't worry Jesse, I don't think you'd be picked last. Be fun to see who goes in the top 10 though. Is Fenris the Reggie Bush of DDM? [)] | |
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ChristopherGroves
Warlord
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doubtofbuddha
Commander
3371 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 10:48 PM |
| | I will pretend to understand your sports analogies. I can assure you I am not worried about being picked last. I won't be picked first, but I most certainly would not be picked last. (Now watch everyone ignore me. [)]) | |
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Richard II
Commander
3663 Posts
| | 01/23/2006 11:13 PM |
| lol. Fantasy DDM would rock.
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brez
Sneak
165 Posts
| | 01/25/2006 12:50 AM |
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Originally posted by kgradert13
Fantasy DDM....I like the sound of that.
"I'll trade your Dagni and Fenris for guyf and the exclusive rights to the Gaze - ALL DAY warband"
No way would I trade away the guy who gets to make the rules.
"Oh, I'm sorry, didn't you hear? That piece is banned. You forfeit."
"What do you mean that you never heard that the Orc Warrior has 'Improved Monk Bane'? It's in the errata..."
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aron1
Sergeant
415 Posts
| | 01/25/2006 9:48 AM |
| quote:
Originally posted by ChristopherGroves
If we were to look at "major areas" we could identify a few hotspots. Lemme brainstorm.
New England
Minnesota
Midwest (IL, OH)
Southwest (AZ, Utah, New Mexico)
Florida
Virginia / DC area
NC (both Charlotte and Raleigh added together)
UK
Main-land EU
Pacific Northwest (Seattle/Portland/Vancouver)
Toronto Area
Montreal Area
Can-West
PEI / Nova Scotia
SoCal
NorCal
Oz
Colorado
Phillipines
Koreas / Singapore / Malaysia
South America
Deeper-south (GA, AL, LA, TX)
Did I miss any of the other large regions? How could we group these? This is like 20 groups that could probably field a decent 4 (or more) person team ... jiminy that's alot of folks.
Michigan should probably get its own region. Kentucky, too, if DCI numbers are to be believed. Maybe also the Pennsylvania/New Jersey/New York area, too.
Now I just have to get about 10x better to be included in the DC-Area top 5. | |
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Dagni
Sergeant
870 Posts
| | 01/25/2006 7:23 PM |
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Originally posted by Kiddoc
quote:
Originally posted by kgradert13
Fantasy DDM....I like the sound of that.
"I'll trade your Dagni and Fenris for guyf and the exclusive rights to the Gaze - ALL DAY warband"
Oooh, if I had the first pick I'd for sure pick Fenris--he's the only guy to make the finals both years eh? Money in the bank. I expect 3 fantasy points per game from him!
Unless of course we're playing salary cap rules. In that case I'm taking the inexpensive, 12-year-old Jeff Santiago from NJ. He's a future prospect, since I'd be building for the long-term in franchise mode. [:D]
And for the expanded roster I nominate myself as a potential coach, and Kiddoc would naturally be the doctor. You know, if someone has an "injury" that's affecting his performance...
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Dagni
Sergeant
870 Posts
| | 01/25/2006 7:49 PM |
| Oh, yeah, back on topic: I think we all know our own region. We could simply allow teams to form up on their own and sign up for the event.
Either have a couple of small restrictions, and label each team based upon the team's locale, or don't worry about region (most teams would still be from the same region anyway.) Restrictions I'm thinking of are limiting a team to only people in the same "area" (no team of me and Kiddoc, for example), and possibly only allowing one team per "area". Area being defined loosely, it'd be fine to have 2 teams from Florida, as long as they were actually seperate regions, as opposed to two teams both from Orlando or whatever.
Sure, breaking it into defined regions could work - it's more of an 'all-star' type of thing, however. It might be more fun for the first time to do a bit more of a team that chooses it's own members. Also, it's still early in the game to really be able to pick *who* the all-stars are in a given region with accuracy. If it is going to be done by specific region, I'd echo another's suggestion and propose a 'qualifier' tournament to determine who makes the team.
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Janos M.
Underboss
1015 Posts
Hamburg / GErmany
| | 01/26/2006 8:00 AM |
| First of all I like your ideas. But you're goinig in your first season. Make loose rules like every team with 5 members is allowed (but no one can be part of two or more teams).
Second there is a clixgame called Mechwarrior. We Germans organized a league called Clan-Battle. A lot of teams (minimum 3 Person/team) fight against the others. As an open challenge teams choose days to fight against. In most cases every team fought 3-5 games a year. Imagine: 3-5 games in 12 month! The reason for this is to find free time and travel makes it hard to get more games. And Germany is much (!!!) smaller than the US and Canada.
If you get your league done, every country have 10 month to find the best team (start perhaps 2007) and the best 4 – 8 go on to the playoffs. Than the continental teams fight against each other. In 2008 the best teams of the continents meet themselves in a big tourney (some US Con?) while the regular season begins again.
Third: You must declare strict rules. Base roules are:
1.) Matches were played by the DCI-Roules
2.) min. 3 games a year to get ranked.
3.) Win/per games and Scoreboard (like achieved VP/ per player minus opponent VP/ per player) to rank the teams
There must be a schedule/Ranking (or website including both) where all players can look at the pairings and standings. This is a must! Because team A fight 4 games from Jan. to Jun. and wins three of them. Now they standing on 4. (and 4 go to the playoffs) Another team B won only one game out of two games in the same period, but plays in October three games. Team A is now able to see, that team B has three games left, for max. 4 wins. If Team A want to go to the playoffs they must make min. 1 game more.
So that’s all (for now).
I hope you’re getting your league on.
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Felagund
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Originally posted by Dagni
Oh, yeah, back on topic: I think we all know our own region. We could simply allow teams to form up on their own and sign up for the event.
Either have a couple of small restrictions, and label each team based upon the team's locale, or don't worry about region (most teams would still be from the same region anyway.) Restrictions I'm thinking of are limiting a team to only people in the same "area" (no team of me and Kiddoc, for example), and possibly only allowing one team per "area". Area being defined loosely, it'd be fine to have 2 teams from Florida, as long as they were actually seperate regions, as opposed to two teams both from Orlando or whatever.
Sure, breaking it into defined regions could work - it's more of an 'all-star' type of thing, however. It might be more fun for the first time to do a bit more of a team that chooses it's own members. Also, it's still early in the game to really be able to pick *who* the all-stars are in a given region with accuracy. If it is going to be done by specific region, I'd echo another's suggestion and propose a 'qualifier' tournament to determine who makes the team.
- Dagni
This is more or less what I was thinking. Everybody in a given area will be in charge of getting their own team together. I like the restrictions you listed as well.
Perhaps we could start another thread for the purpose of registering teams? And perhaps we could get it stickied?
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Originally posted by Janos. M
First of all I like your ideas. But you're goinig in your first season. Make loose rules like every team with 5 members is allowed (but no one can be part of two or more teams).
I think you may have misunderstood what we're trying to organize. The intention is not to form a league, but rather to hold an online championship, in which geographic regions with active skirmishers will be represented by a team of players from that region. | |
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sienar
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| | 01/26/2006 2:59 PM |
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Originally posted by Felagund
quote:
Originally posted by Dagni
Oh, yeah, back on topic: I think we all know our own region. We could simply allow teams to form up on their own and sign up for the event.
Either have a couple of small restrictions, and label each team based upon the team's locale, or don't worry about region (most teams would still be from the same region anyway.) Restrictions I'm thinking of are limiting a team to only people in the same "area" (no team of me and Kiddoc, for example), and possibly only allowing one team per "area". Area being defined loosely, it'd be fine to have 2 teams from Florida, as long as they were actually seperate regions, as opposed to two teams both from Orlando or whatever.
Sure, breaking it into defined regions could work - it's more of an 'all-star' type of thing, however. It might be more fun for the first time to do a bit more of a team that chooses it's own members. Also, it's still early in the game to really be able to pick *who* the all-stars are in a given region with accuracy. If it is going to be done by specific region, I'd echo another's suggestion and propose a 'qualifier' tournament to determine who makes the team.
- Dagni
This is more or less what I was thinking. Everybody in a given area will be in charge of getting their own team together. I like the restrictions you listed as well.
Perhaps we could start another thread for the purpose of registering teams? And perhaps we could get it stickied?
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Originally posted by Janos. M
First of all I like your ideas. But you're goinig in your first season. Make loose rules like every team with 5 members is allowed (but no one can be part of two or more teams).
I think you may have misunderstood what we're trying to organize. The intention is not to form a league, but rather to hold an online championship, in which geographic regions with active skirmishers will be represented by a team of players from that region.
Right on both things. This is for a tournament, more than for a league. You win, you move on. Do we want a swiss-style tournament, single-elim, or double-elim? I'm kinda partial to double-elim. I was kind of basing this on pool league tournaments, which I think are double. That way, your team can take one loss and still win. Or, we can just be brutal and do single-elim.
I like the idea of starting a new thread to sign up for teams and stickying it. Should we put it in General to maximize traffic? | |
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kgradert13
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| | 01/26/2006 3:11 PM |
| Big fan of the double-elmin.
I'd leave it in tournaments (or Online play) rather then General | |
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Felagund
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| | 01/26/2006 4:46 PM |
| Double elimination would be best, I think, as it allows for one matchup with bad dice. Or it allows people to face So Cal and keep playing. [:)]
Perhaps we could keep the thread in this forum, but have a referring thread in General just to grab people's attention? | |
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sienar
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| | 01/27/2006 10:55 AM |
| | Check out the Online Play (Vassal) forum. I have a sign-up post. | |
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