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Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
 5267 Posts



 Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
 | | 03/06/2008 12:00 PM | Alert | Check it
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35776
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| Shottglazz Sergeant
 826 Posts



 Quinte West, Ontario, Canada
 | | 03/06/2008 1:43 PM | Alert | This has got to be the most servile, pandering review of any game product I've ever seen. Hell, I've read reviews by company employees that weren't this glowing, sunshine-out-of-the-butt cheerful. Anyone that I've conversed with on here knows I'm not happy about the changes to the game - but even if I was, this review would have me sceptical. Unless WotC has managed to do the impossible (release a game system with no flaws/bugs) then the reviewer has not IMHO, done his job.
The whole thing screamed "Yeah, there are things that tick ppl off - but look at all this uber-cool stuff ye can do now". The idea that it's stupid that the wizard can blow through his whole repetoire in a short while stuns me. Planning/strategy be damned?
The only realistic part was when he admitted that the Epic levels are pretty silly. If I ever were to play in a game where an ability was remotely like "Once per day, when you die..." then I'd feel compelled to give my dice away, sell my minis and take up another hobby. | | Shottglazz "Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand; I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me."
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| wicked cool Underboss
 1958 Posts




 | | 03/06/2008 5:13 PM | Alert | | so he likes the changes! i like some of them as well. | | The ROCK layeth the smacketh down. Long live Farscape Vindicated-CHAMPION of the INTELLECT DEVOURER i will change my avatar when martin completes dances with dragons | |
| The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
 10627 Posts



 In the constellation of Cygnus, or Central Connecticut
 | | 03/06/2008 6:33 PM | Alert | Posted By wicked cool on 03/06/2008 5:13 PM so he likes the changes! i like some of them as well. Like them? Sounds like he wants to marry them. LOL!
| | The details of my life are quite inconsequential... very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner and RPG designer from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute and RPGA certified DM named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark and THAC0. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons, D&D every night. In the spring we'd make meat helmets for LARP. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag, forced to walk the walk of a thousand four siders, and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe, which was very handy for D&D. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles for LARP. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.
Spreading the love of the Digitus Impudicus Champion of the Spider Eater with rider. I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM How many times in life do you get to eat your own Ctulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
| Knight of the Round Table Thenameless Warlord
 7887 Posts



 The Fortress of Solitude
 | | 03/07/2008 1:07 AM | Alert | | He likes it. That's for sure. | | Over 270 successful online DDM trades. | |
| Duke of Spoils greyhaze Warlord
 5099 Posts




 | | 03/07/2008 6:53 AM | Alert | | Oh, massawyrn, yeh already read this "sunshine and lollipops" review... I am skeptical about this "reviewer" to say the least. | | Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers Champion of Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60, Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger. Called Shots: Ghast in Against the Giants, Darkenbeast in Demon Web. | |
| kyrin Commander
 3106 Posts




 | | 03/07/2008 9:08 AM | Alert | I've talked many times here in Austin with Cargill (Massawyrm), and he does indeed seem to be quite taken with 4th Edition. Then again, he was quite disaffected with 3.5. That may be the deal: if you don't like 3.5, you may love 4.0. Also, he strikes me as the person that is always looking for the Next Big Thing. For WotC's sake, I hope there are enough people like him to make up for all the 3.5 product they won't be producing.
Oh, and I can assure that Massawyrm is not a shill. That's not his personality. Actually, he is QUITE disgruntled with DDM 2.0, after being an old hand at DDM 1.0. In fact, he was the creator of Displaced Agression. So he's genuine. He's not convincing me to switch, but he's sincere in his affection.
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| Ssylyss Sneak
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 | | 03/07/2008 9:58 AM | Alert | Posted By Shottglazz on 03/06/2008 1:43 PM
The only realistic part was when he admitted that the Epic levels are pretty silly. If I ever were to play in a game where an ability was remotely like "Once per day, when you die..." then I'd feel compelled to give my dice away, sell my minis and take up another hobby. If the new rules for epic levels works well I'm all for it no matter how silly. I played a 3.5 campaign for a year and half. Our party of four made it to level 22, but from there it just fell apart because the 3.5 Epic rules are, how should I say... pure Crap!
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| Duke of Spoils greyhaze Warlord
 5099 Posts




 | | 03/07/2008 11:06 AM | Alert | | What happens when you reach level 40 in 4e? It'll probably fall apart as well... 3.5 just wasn't designed with 20+ levels in mind (even though there is material for it). | | Greyhaze's DDM Spoilers Champion of Darkenbeast , Raistlin Majere, Nightmare WDQ25/60, Warduke WD60/60, Anti-Champion of Guns, "Knight of Bugbears", and Joke Champion of Venger. Called Shots: Ghast in Against the Giants, Darkenbeast in Demon Web. | |
| Ssylyss Sneak
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 | | 03/07/2008 12:32 PM | Alert | Posted By greyhaze on 03/07/2008 11:06 AM What happens when you reach level 40 in 4e? It'll probably fall apart as well... 3.5 just wasn't designed with 20+ levels in mind (even though there is material for it). Thats a good question. Hopefully thats not the case.
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| Bail Ohmar Sneak
 56 Posts



 Black Country, UK
 | | 03/26/2008 3:39 AM | Alert | Well, a glowing review from a WOTC PLAYTESTER. After playing this game he sold most of his 3.5 books... yeah right! Like I believe that.
| | "No disintegrations? Yeah right!" - Bail Ohmar, Warriors of Gar Sithspawn's Lair - www.ugavine.com | |
| The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
 10627 Posts



 In the constellation of Cygnus, or Central Connecticut
 | | 03/26/2008 4:38 AM | Alert | | I'll never understand this fawning affection that some people have towards any company. Even when I was a heavy WotC supporter and was buyng books every month and three cases og minis every release, I never had this kind of "drink the Koolaid" attitude towards WotC and its products. | | The details of my life are quite inconsequential... very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner and RPG designer from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute and RPGA certified DM named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark and THAC0. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons, D&D every night. In the spring we'd make meat helmets for LARP. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag, forced to walk the walk of a thousand four siders, and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe, which was very handy for D&D. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles for LARP. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.
Spreading the love of the Digitus Impudicus Champion of the Spider Eater with rider. I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM How many times in life do you get to eat your own Ctulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
| Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
 5267 Posts



 Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
 | | 03/26/2008 8:48 AM | Alert | Blind faith in anything is a bda idea. Skepticism should always be applied.
The difference here are the conclusions we've deduced.
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|  Vrecknidj Warlord
 9455 Posts


 United States
 | | 03/26/2008 3:25 PM | Alert | Posted By Teflon Jeff on 03/26/2008 8:48 AM Blind faith in anything is a bda idea. Skepticism should always be applied.
The difference here are the conclusions we've deduced.
Blind faith in skepticism...
Wait, that's probably a bad idea too.
Hey, did you know that every time you buy a 4e book you'll be handed a bag of gold?
Dave
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| Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
 5267 Posts



 Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
 | | 03/26/2008 3:38 PM | Alert | This is not the outrageous rumor thread.
| | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Against The Giants Called Shot: Huge Green Dragon Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon
"Rejoice, for bad things are about to happen." | |
| The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
 10627 Posts



 In the constellation of Cygnus, or Central Connecticut
 | | 03/26/2008 5:45 PM | Alert | Posted By Vrecknidj on 03/26/2008 3:25 PM Posted By Teflon Jeff on 03/26/2008 8:48 AM Blind faith in anything is a bda idea. Skepticism should always be applied.
The difference here are the conclusions we've deduced.
Blind faith in skepticism... Wait, that's probably a bad idea too. Hey, did you know that every time you buy a 4e book you'll be handed a bag of metal slugs with the Fool's Gold spell cast on them? Dave Fixed that for ya.
| | The details of my life are quite inconsequential... very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner and RPG designer from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute and RPGA certified DM named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark and THAC0. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons, D&D every night. In the spring we'd make meat helmets for LARP. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag, forced to walk the walk of a thousand four siders, and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe, which was very handy for D&D. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles for LARP. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.
Spreading the love of the Digitus Impudicus Champion of the Spider Eater with rider. I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM How many times in life do you get to eat your own Ctulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
|  Fun Guy from Yuggoth Cthulhufnord Warlord
 10155 Posts



 Umass Amherst Baby!
 | | 03/26/2008 11:45 PM | Alert | Ha! 
| | Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. Robert E. Howard | |
| vanrulzz Underboss
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 | | 03/30/2008 12:35 PM | Alert | | ha to you too | | TENTACLES!!!!! STRANGE TEMPLES!!!! FREE PIE!!!! IM CRZY KEWL!!!! | |
| The Great Choco Monster Ghendar Warlord
 10627 Posts



 In the constellation of Cygnus, or Central Connecticut
 | | 03/31/2008 8:15 AM | Alert | | Angry muffins laugh? | | The details of my life are quite inconsequential... very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner and RPG designer from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute and RPGA certified DM named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark and THAC0. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons, D&D every night. In the spring we'd make meat helmets for LARP. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag, forced to walk the walk of a thousand four siders, and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe, which was very handy for D&D. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles for LARP. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.
Spreading the love of the Digitus Impudicus Champion of the Spider Eater with rider. I actually love to be swallowed. - Posted By gss_000 on 09/04/2007 2:32 PM How many times in life do you get to eat your own Ctulhu? - Posted By Pedro on 03/31/2008 2:29 | |
| Master of the Awesome Sauce Teflon Jeff Warlord
 5267 Posts



 Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
 | | 03/31/2008 10:15 AM | Alert | angrily, they do.
| | Official Delegate, Wizards of the Coast Against The Giants Called Shot: Huge Green Dragon Icons Called Shot: Gargantuan Prismatic Dragon
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