vanrulzz
Underboss
2159 Posts
    
¯\(°_o)/¯
 | | 03/13/2008 1:57 PM |  Alert | so the core:
Frost Giant Jarl
Wulfgar
Wulfgar can grant the Jarl extra attacks once when it gets bloodied and once whenever he wants. the attack of the jarl includes a followup so essentially the jarl gets 4 free attacks from the already powerful Wulfgar. i cant wait to playtest this.
| |
TENTACLES!!!!!
STRANGE TEMPLES!!!!
FREE PIE!!!!
IM CRZY KEWL!!!! | |
|
Pedro
Commander
3365 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 03/13/2008 2:26 PM | Alert | Nice find.
Wulfgar 54
FJJ 102
Krenshar 7
MG 8
MG 8
MG 8
Farmer 3
Farmer 3
Farmer 3
Farmer 3
199/9 | |
C[][illillillilli][lloll]{=========================
1.0 Champion of Sa'Di-Noel, the famous Phalanx Captain General who gives bonuses to his armies in the Phalanx Formation
2.0 Champion of ...
Next Icon Called Shot: Baldur's Gate pack - Khalid, Jaheira, Minsc (and BOO!), Imoen, Xan, Sarevok...
Dungeon of Dread Called Shot: Cranium Rat
Against the Giants Called Shot: Phoenix
Demonweb Called Shot: Yagnoloth | |
|
SkYlyn3
Warrior
221 Posts
Williamsburg, Virginia
| | 03/14/2008 12:22 AM | Alert | | Wow. Just wow. | |
Champion of Mohrg
| |
|
Dordledum
Commander
2937 Posts
Netherlands
| | 03/14/2008 6:03 AM | Alert | Ouch. Just ouch.
D. | |
Champion of the Huge Spider (WotDQ 46/60), A New Umber Hulk (DoDe 57/60), and Hardcopy Printed DDM 2.0 Stat-Cards for all Minis!
Completed: got them all!!! | |
|
Sean-Khan
Commander
2656 Posts
| |
Wolfgang
Underboss
2084 Posts
Milton, Ontario Canada
| | 03/14/2008 11:50 AM | Alert | | good thinking | |
Proud member since March 26 2005
Champion of the SIVAK DRACONIAN
Joke champion of the epic sage!
Halls of the giant kings called shot - Sivak draconian
Demonweb called shot - Sivak draconian
Completed trades: (67)
Bad traders(2) DJchuckles, sardal
Trade References
Email Me | |
|
Vrecknidj
Warlord
9455 Posts
United States
| | 03/14/2008 1:24 PM | Alert | Triple Large Shadow Dragon can clear the fodder and then play keep-away for a while. At least it's a viable threat.
You know, it's too bad the Dread Wraith costs so much. With Insubstantial and Enervation (from the LShD), the combo could be intimidating.
Dave | |
Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing;
My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
|
Pedro
Commander
3365 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 03/14/2008 2:09 PM | Alert | Posted By Vrecknidj on 03/14/2008 1:24 PM
Triple Large Shadow Dragon can clear the fodder and then play keep-away for a while. At least it's a viable threat.
You know, it's too bad the Dread Wraith costs so much. With Insubstantial and Enervation (from the LShD), the combo could be intimidating.
Dave
I just hope this sucky warband won't be viable now. | |
C[][illillillilli][lloll]{=========================
1.0 Champion of Sa'Di-Noel, the famous Phalanx Captain General who gives bonuses to his armies in the Phalanx Formation
2.0 Champion of ...
Next Icon Called Shot: Baldur's Gate pack - Khalid, Jaheira, Minsc (and BOO!), Imoen, Xan, Sarevok...
Dungeon of Dread Called Shot: Cranium Rat
Against the Giants Called Shot: Phoenix
Demonweb Called Shot: Yagnoloth | |
|
Lord_rock
Underboss
1247 Posts
Portland OR
| | 03/14/2008 5:41 PM | Alert | I really want to like the dreadwraiths. If their att drained 5hp for them every att I could see them going a long long time... As is they are close and very close to viable singularly with the deathknights who boosts them to +24 and their first 2 hits are +20 dmg... Barring an untimely crit they are solid... Well insubstantial really but you get it...
Wulfgar+jarl... 2 great pieces put together make one great combo...
PS-Be sure to kick the person playing tiple shadow run away... Let that tactic die with ddm1... | |
Rock Bottom Pricing:
Arcane Archer 30, Centaur Hero 67, Human Cleric of Bane 25, Gold Champion 34, Death Knight 52, Goblin Blackblade 9, Silentwolf Goblin 7, Orc Raider 10, Dwarf axefighter 9, Healer 9, Thaskor 65, Aspect of Demogorgon 71, Ogre 9, Fire Giant 79, Human Wanderer 7, Drunken Master 18, Barghest 12, Longstider Barbarian 27, Longtooth Barbarian 22, Frost Giant 76, Ravenous Vampire 42, Large Earth Elemental: priceless | |
|
Sean-Khan
Commander
2656 Posts
| | 03/14/2008 11:32 PM | Alert | Posted By Lord_rock on 03/14/2008 5:41 PM
I really want to like the dreadwraiths. If their att drained 5hp for them every att I could see them going a long long time... As is they are close and very close to viable singularly with the deathknights who boosts them to +24 and their first 2 hits are +20 dmg... Barring an untimely crit they are solid... Well insubstantial really but you get it...
Wulfgar+jarl... 2 great pieces put together make one great combo...
PS-Be sure to kick the person playing tiple shadow run away... Let that tactic die with ddm1... Well, Wraith should be well healed if pairing with Death Knight!
I read about triple-shadow at WotC boards, where it is great concern - 1st turn(!) 3 breaths at high bonus & enervating & allowing to teleport away... Uglier than ever.
| |
My collected trade reference links
Star Wars tactical combat -project
My modelling/terrain pages
Suomen miniatyyrikeräilijät / Miniature collectors of Finland | |
|
Sirohk
Commander
3543 Posts
USA
| | 03/15/2008 3:51 AM | Alert | Posted By Sean-Khan on 03/14/2008 11:32 PM Posted By Lord_rock on 03/14/2008 5:41 PM
I really want to like the dreadwraiths. If their att drained 5hp for them every att I could see them going a long long time... As is they are close and very close to viable singularly with the deathknights who boosts them to +24 and their first 2 hits are +20 dmg... Barring an untimely crit they are solid... Well insubstantial really but you get it...
Wulfgar+jarl... 2 great pieces put together make one great combo...
PS-Be sure to kick the person playing tiple shadow run away... Let that tactic die with ddm1... Well, Wraith should be well healed if pairing with Death Knight! I read about triple-shadow at WotC boards, where it is great concern - 1st turn(!) 3 breaths at high bonus & enervating & allowing to teleport away... Uglier than ever.
I read the same "discussion". Trips Shadow, again, makes my stomach turn. I hope that there is at least a counter to it.Â
To the thread, I thin FGJ is the real deal. I kinda of like him paired with the Eternal Blade.Â
Either way, 1 or 2 misses with the FGJ, which also means no follow up ATT, IMO one is hosed. A high variance piece / warband. But solid and viable none the less.Â
| |
Sirohk, the Bard of Heartstone
Knight of the Rahshasa's
And Crusader of the Zakya, Ak'chazar, Naztharune, and Naityan Rakshasa's | |
|
Pedro
Commander
3365 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 03/15/2008 5:00 AM | Alert | Posted By Sirohk on 03/15/2008 3:51 AM Posted By Sean-Khan on 03/14/2008 11:32 PM Posted By Lord_rock on 03/14/2008 5:41 PM
I really want to like the dreadwraiths. If their att drained 5hp for them every att I could see them going a long long time... As is they are close and very close to viable singularly with the deathknights who boosts them to +24 and their first 2 hits are +20 dmg... Barring an untimely crit they are solid... Well insubstantial really but you get it...
Wulfgar+jarl... 2 great pieces put together make one great combo...
PS-Be sure to kick the person playing tiple shadow run away... Let that tactic die with ddm1... Well, Wraith should be well healed if pairing with Death Knight! I read about triple-shadow at WotC boards, where it is great concern - 1st turn(!) 3 breaths at high bonus & enervating & allowing to teleport away... Uglier than ever.
I read the same "discussion". Trips Shadow, again, makes my stomach turn. I hope that there is at least a counter to it.Â
To the thread, I thin FGJ is the real deal. I kinda of like him paired with the Eternal Blade.Â
Either way, 1 or 2 misses with the FGJ, which also means no follow up ATT, IMO one is hosed. A high variance piece / warband. But solid and viable none the less.Â
He has +23 with fllank, so he shouldn't miss much. Then, he has his hammer against swarms with radius 2, with Blade +19 against Fort.
His problem is fire. Archons, Salamander, LGD,  maybe even flying Large Fire Elemental.
| |
C[][illillillilli][lloll]{=========================
1.0 Champion of Sa'Di-Noel, the famous Phalanx Captain General who gives bonuses to his armies in the Phalanx Formation
2.0 Champion of ...
Next Icon Called Shot: Baldur's Gate pack - Khalid, Jaheira, Minsc (and BOO!), Imoen, Xan, Sarevok...
Dungeon of Dread Called Shot: Cranium Rat
Against the Giants Called Shot: Phoenix
Demonweb Called Shot: Yagnoloth | |
|
vanrulzz
Underboss
2159 Posts
¯\(°_o)/¯
| | 03/19/2008 12:38 PM | Alert | | so has anyone playtested a jarl wulfgar band yet? i will soon, but vassal is not working for me so i have to go to a real tournament to do it. | |
TENTACLES!!!!!
STRANGE TEMPLES!!!!
FREE PIE!!!!
IM CRZY KEWL!!!! | |
|
Vrecknidj
Warlord
9455 Posts
United States
| | 03/19/2008 1:22 PM | Alert | Hmm,
By using the Death Knight to bring in the Dread Wraith, you can also use the Eternal Blade (though this is about all the points you'll get).
The Dread Wraith is now a bit tougher, and considerably tougher against certain types of opponents.
Death Knight
Eternal Blade
Dread Wraith
Farmer x2
Some 5-point chump
Really low on activations, but it might be fun.
Dave | |
Knowledge Arcana editor issues 5-9, Phoenix Lore Magazine editor, assistant editor for Rite Publishing;
My Trade Thread and My Reference Thread; Winner of WBC IV, IX and XIII; Rule #0: bshugg is always right! | |
|
vanrulzz
Underboss
2159 Posts
¯\(°_o)/¯
| | 03/21/2008 9:37 AM | Alert | | lol did u post in the right thread? | |
TENTACLES!!!!!
STRANGE TEMPLES!!!!
FREE PIE!!!!
IM CRZY KEWL!!!! | |
|
Temysry
Sergeant
435 Posts
| | 03/21/2008 1:06 PM | Alert | Posted By vanrulzz on 03/19/2008 12:38 PM
so has anyone playtested a jarl wulfgar band yet? i will soon, but vassal is not working for me so i have to go to a real tournament to do it.
I've now had a chance to see both the EB + FJG and Wulfgar + FJG bands in action. Based on only seeing one game of each, I'd have to say that the Wulfgar version seems stronger. It is very easy to take out key pieces quickly when using Wulfgar's champion power and his other ability which gives a free attack. The version I played also had a warhorse for Wulfgar which allowed him amazing flexibility to drop 40 (or 55 if the horse hits too) damage with a high attack bonus. My map of choice was Dragon Graveyard. The match was against an Exarch/Elf Conjurer wild band. In the second round, I was able to make it almost clear across the map and charged his conjurer and rolled a 1. I then used Wulfgar's champion power to try again and was able to kill the elf (and cleave into the Exarch). It was pretty downhill after that for my opponent.
When I played against EB+FGJ I was using Lady Vol on a Nightmare and it wasn't even close. I won my map (which was Drow Outpost) and proceeded to plug up the bridge with a horde of Boneshard Skeletons. Not wanting to be *too* cheap, I used Vol's poison cone first which decimated his warband. Moreover, FGJ failed the save so ended up taking a total of 50 damage from it. The Boneshards did the rest, blowing up for 15 damage each (and one got a crit on his deathburst for a total of 40 damage). The giant had been reduced to 10 hp and died when it activated from the ongoing poison. He only managed to get one good swing in. Despite 30AC and conceal 11, he managed to hit with both attacks against Vol who took 75 damage and was stunned. Luckily, I could retreat to safety as the damage had been done.
Overall, I think the band is very strong but does have all its eggs in one basket. I don't think it's good enough to be a top contender but it should get you a winning record against an decent field. | |
A Proud Gelatinous Dude
www.gelatinousdudes.com
| |
|
Pedro
Commander
3365 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 03/27/2008 4:45 AM | Alert | | Nerfed! | |
C[][illillillilli][lloll]{=========================
1.0 Champion of Sa'Di-Noel, the famous Phalanx Captain General who gives bonuses to his armies in the Phalanx Formation
2.0 Champion of ...
Next Icon Called Shot: Baldur's Gate pack - Khalid, Jaheira, Minsc (and BOO!), Imoen, Xan, Sarevok...
Dungeon of Dread Called Shot: Cranium Rat
Against the Giants Called Shot: Phoenix
Demonweb Called Shot: Yagnoloth | |
|
Pedro
Commander
3365 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 03/27/2008 2:39 PM | Alert | | I played the better one today and smashed some bands. 1st, CCD+Blade+Tiger. Then, the same band threw me into pit:( And at last, MFL+2UHD, Babau, Mastiff. A very close one, but I won after a few rounds of stunning and confusing. | |
C[][illillillilli][lloll]{=========================
1.0 Champion of Sa'Di-Noel, the famous Phalanx Captain General who gives bonuses to his armies in the Phalanx Formation
2.0 Champion of ...
Next Icon Called Shot: Baldur's Gate pack - Khalid, Jaheira, Minsc (and BOO!), Imoen, Xan, Sarevok...
Dungeon of Dread Called Shot: Cranium Rat
Against the Giants Called Shot: Phoenix
Demonweb Called Shot: Yagnoloth | |
|
vanrulzz
Underboss
2159 Posts
¯\(°_o)/¯
| | 03/27/2008 4:23 PM | Alert | | i lost against triple blades (who doesnt) but only primarily because i forgot the followup stunned until just now. | |
TENTACLES!!!!!
STRANGE TEMPLES!!!!
FREE PIE!!!!
IM CRZY KEWL!!!! | |
|
Pedro
Commander
3365 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 03/27/2008 4:41 PM | Alert | | Also, Wulfie was wrecked a little by MFL's power. It was painful and was felt. | |
C[][illillillilli][lloll]{=========================
1.0 Champion of Sa'Di-Noel, the famous Phalanx Captain General who gives bonuses to his armies in the Phalanx Formation
2.0 Champion of ...
Next Icon Called Shot: Baldur's Gate pack - Khalid, Jaheira, Minsc (and BOO!), Imoen, Xan, Sarevok...
Dungeon of Dread Called Shot: Cranium Rat
Against the Giants Called Shot: Phoenix
Demonweb Called Shot: Yagnoloth | |
|