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06/26/2008 2:44 AM  
What future materials are you waiting for, what are you going to get? Are you going to collect all the stuff, keep to the basic trio or something between that?

With 3(.5) I stayed with just the core books. Now I've already decided I'll buy MM2 - well, if it has majority of the creatures I still miss that is. But other than that I'm not quite sure. But due to lack of variety, other books are needed too.

I want to stay with as little extra books as possible. Martial Power is seducing, as it has lots of extra options for half of the classes, probably including new build options, which might allow barbarian -like builds for example. Also, I believe it's a must book if you want to do a mounted fighter. It might give enough variety to allow full-martial games. Then again, I don't think there will be combined Arcane & Divine book. This would make necessary purchases already to 7 books, which is too much for me.

Then there's PHB 2. It looks like it's concentrated on new classes, and it's likely to have many old favourites, like bard, sorcerer (which seems really different), barbarian and druid (a must I'd say). Depending on if there's much options for existing classes and more variety for the new classes than in PHB1, this might be THE choise for me.

I read some rumors about some 'best of' book, but am really not sure what was it about. Sounds pretty good, if it would be made for those that want something more of everything. I think I read it at enworld, but the site seems to be down now.

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06/26/2008 5:37 AM  
So far I am determined to get the equipment & magic items book due in October(?) & the PHB 2 in March 09.  Beyond that I don't know.  With 3E I bought nearly everything and is just about ruined the game for me (yes it is possible to have too much choice!).  With 4E I want to stick close to core but since core has some glaring ommissions I'll expand a little bit.

The martial & arcane powers books are tempting......

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06/26/2008 5:47 AM  
I'm looking forward to seeing what 4e holds for my favourite campaign setting, Dragonlance.

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06/26/2008 6:03 AM  
While I am willing to go the full dollar for most of the supplements, Dragonlance worries me. I love it and it is my favourite setting as well, but I haven't found that 4th edition lends itself to the setting. It is a huge disappiontment to be honest, but I have all the 3.5 DL stuff and people willing to do 3.5 for DL so no real worries.

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06/26/2008 6:56 AM  
Posted By Raland on 06/26/2008 5:47 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing what 4e holds for my favourite campaign setting, Dragonlance.


Eberron for me!  I wonder if I can use my current Eberron books for 4E....

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06/26/2008 7:24 AM  
I'm actually most looking forward to the new Manual of the Planes. I was rather disappointed that the DMG had only two pages devoted to the new cosmology.

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06/26/2008 7:26 AM  
One consideration for Dragonlance is that Wizards did not extend the license to Margaret Weiss. It seems as though there are plans for Dragonlance to make a WotC directly backed appearance in 2009.

I don't think that the fact that minotaurs in 4e are now medium-sized by default is mere coincidence, either.

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06/26/2008 7:34 AM  
Zenthrus you do make a point with the minotaur, If memory serves anyway Dragonlance CS was released by WOTC before going to Margaret Weiss and Soverigen Press. I hope that they do a good job with it I really do (if they make it) but....right now the mechnics still are not worked out enough. Though I do not plan on buying it I will be looking at the FRCS when it releases...If and only if it seems like a good translation of the source then I will renounce my fears for a DL4ed and jump on board with it. Speaking of FR, aside from Drizzt and Elminister does anyone know if Entreri and Wulfgar will be given stats in this release. Possible first look at a Barabarian if they release Wulfgar.

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06/26/2008 8:04 AM  
As with 3.5, I'll probably just continue getting whatever catches my interest.

As with 3.5, I'll probably end up with piles of books whose content has never been used.

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06/26/2008 8:31 AM  
Unlike 3e, I will not be pouring money into 4e. I will buy the new FR campaign setting book. That's about it.

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06/26/2008 8:44 AM  
Posted By MarioCleanstuff on 06/26/2008 8:04 AM
As with 3.5, I'll probably just continue getting whatever catches my interest.

As with 3.5, I'll probably end up with piles of books whose content has never been used.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!  Too true, my friend.  I have way too many 3.5 books that never really got used.

I'm going to try to be more conservative with my spending on 4th Ed.  I will probably check out Eberron when it comes out.  Teh PHB2 sounds interesting, other than Eberron, it's all that really interests me right now.  I really like 4th Ed so far.  I plan on creating my own adventures and campaign setting in an attempt to save some money this time araound.

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06/26/2008 8:46 AM  
Some select 4E stuff.

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06/26/2008 11:31 AM  
Still looking for an updated--Against The Giants--I would even be willing to pay the hefty pricetag for a hardcover edition.


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06/26/2008 11:34 AM  
For me its the Arcane book.  While I hope all the classes get a bunch of cool new powers, the wizard is the number one class that feels less than previous editions.  I like what they do, I like how they act, I just am used to having so many options for them that when I don't, its hard for me to adjust.  The Dragon content was a nice addition.

So bring on the rest of it, a whole book dedicated to Arcane.  Once the wizard has some more diversity, all will be right again :)

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06/27/2008 10:49 AM  
FR stuff, and maybe hoping for a modern update to 4E. D20 modern isn't very good (I may end up using spycraft, which I've heard very good things about)

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06/29/2008 3:11 AM  
I don't have plans to buy into 4e. I have the core 4e books, and that's all I need and I didn't pay a penny for them. Unlike what I did with 3e with 400 books, I will not do this with 4e.

Not saying 3e is better, but I just invested around 2 grand into 3e and I don't want to see that go to waste. 4e is ok, it's just not my thing. But I'm playing it anyways just because there's some interest in it.

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06/29/2008 7:54 AM  
If they ever try to continue the Dragonlance setting from the "current" state of Krynn, they might as well just not. Any appeal Dragonlance may once have had has long since been lost in the annual crisis-to-change-the-status-quo-forever that's been a staple ever since Dragons of Summer Flame.

The fact that Weis & Hickman intentionally sought to make the setting unusuable after War of Souls only compounds this problem.

I'm also feeling distinctly dubious about a 4e version of Dark Sun. Athas relied on some very hard-edged roleplaying and mature concepts, neither of which seem suited to 4e. About the only similarity would be the potential for characters to achieved ridiculous levels of power.

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06/30/2008 9:12 AM  
Posted By Rakhamon on 06/29/2008 7:54 AM

The fact that Weis & Hickman intentionally sought to make the setting unusuable after War of Souls only compounds this problem.


heh I would love to know how you came to this conclusion, considering its Weis's company, Sovereign Press, that took up the torch for DL for 3.5 and produced the gaming material.  In fact, War of the Souls was made *because* so many people wanted to play in a Dragonlance that felt like the old.  They brought back the gods, wizards of high sorcery, etc because people wanted those in the world and to game with.

So I guess I'd be interested where you saw anything alluding to Weis and Hickman wanting to make DL unuseable.

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06/30/2008 4:00 PM  
Seeing as how the PHB2 will likely contain the final couple of classes in both the arcane and divine power sources and the complete primal power source, My list of 4e materials that I will certainly buy is:

PHBII
MMII
Martial, Arcane, Divine and Primal Power
Eberron CS material
Dark Sun material, if it indeed comes out.

Can't imagine getting the DMGII, but weirder things have happened. Sixteen or Seventeen classes (Artificer in Eberron, I assume) should be plenty of differentiation.

But knowing me, I'll be getting practically everything for the first few years.

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07/03/2008 5:04 AM  
Btw, were 3.5E PHB2,DMG2 and MM2 sold in one package? The Amazon deal was just too good to pass, and if the new books come with a similar deal, I might well buy the pack.

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07/05/2008 8:02 AM  
I'd buy the 3-pack if it had the PHB 2, DMG 2, and MM2. Will we for sure see a Dungeon Master's Guide 2 though? I guess I'm not as sure what would be in that one, whereas I can see the definite value in the PHB 2 and MM 2.

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07/07/2008 10:18 PM  
I haven't bought any campaign settings since first edition. :-) I like to make up my own. I usually end up buying additional monster manuals. My players often purchase a remarkable number of splat type books.
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07/09/2008 9:56 AM  
DM screen, maybe the leather bound ones, and probably most of the FR stuff.

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07/18/2008 3:27 PM  
At first I thought I might buy the core books just to have as a reference but then it hit me that I already have all the rulebooks I could ever want.  I own quite a few 1E, 2E and 3E books... they cover every variation of D&D I could ask for.  In the end it's a good thing since it'll save me a lot of money.
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