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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10253 Posts
    
United States
 | | 07/18/2008 5:23 AM |
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First, I don't think the Human Blackguard is worth 4 more points. Second, I don't know that he'd see much play if he cost even 6 or 8 fewer points. I'd rather have the higher speed and AC than the extra 5 hit points (heck, I'd take either one); I'd rather have the higher champion rating; I'd rather have the Mercenary General's champion powers; I'd rather have the cohort. The Tyrannical Rally is nice, but, it's not nice enough to justify all the shortcomings AND the higher cost. And, on top of all that, because of the alignment restriction, there are a lot of Good (and good!) Civilization pieces that can't be combined with the Blackguard that can be combined with the General.
So, despite my previous assessment, I'm giving this piece a BIG THUMBS DOWN.
Dave
Human Blackguard
46
10
25
22
5
70
ATTACK ACTIONS
Basic: Longsword: +17 vs AC; 15 Damage
ABILITIES
Evil • Human • Divine
SPECIAL POWERS
Sneak Attack 5: +5 Damage whenever this creature has combat advantage against target.
Tyrannical Rally: Bloodied allies within 5 squares have +2 Attack.
CHAMPION 3 [][][]
• Use when an ally becomes Bloodied but is not destroyed. That ally makes an immediate Basic: attack at +10 Damage but takes 15 Damage if the attack misses.
• Use when an enemy attacks an ally. That enemy has –4 AC and –4 DEF until end of its next turn.
Mercenary General
42
10
26
22
6
65
ATTACK ACTIONS
Basic: Sword +17 vs AC; 15 Damage
ABILITIES
Unique • Human • Martial
SPECIAL POWERS
Cohort
CHAMPION 4 [][][][]
• Use at any time. Allies with cost 20 or less have +2 Speed until end of round.
• Use at any time. One ally has +4 DEF until end of round.
• Use at any time. Allies with the same name as this creature's cohort (including the cohort) have +4 Melee and Ranged Attack until end of round. | |
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OhGodtheRats
Sneak
140 Posts
| | 07/18/2008 6:25 AM |
| I'm actually having some trouble comparing the two....their champion powers/abilities just paint a completely different picture, it's like comparing, I don't know, the Runecarved Eidolon to the Cleric of Sune. Both have a few things in common and cost somewhere near each other, but they don't equate perfectly well because they do different things with those, errrr, things. :starting over: I mean, the Merc General Buffs his allies while the Human Blackguard buffs a little to all bloodied allies for free and debuffs a single enemy. It's the same ball, just a different sport.
I will say that the Merc General seems a better piece if you're running a fodder-heavy warband, but I can imagine that 1st Champion power of the Blackguard pulling out some scary, scary moves/combos. And there's no question: I'd be happier having a Merc General in my collection than a Human Blackguard. | | | |
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Teflon Jeff
Warlord
7067 Posts
Idaho. Yes, we have Gamers in Idaho.
| | 07/18/2008 9:27 AM |
| I still think the Merc General is tops.
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Vrecknidj
Warlord
10253 Posts
United States
| | 07/18/2008 2:29 PM |
| I agree that comparing them flat out isn't entirely fair. They fill different roles.
Nevertheless...
Their costs are 4 apart, they're both champions, in the same faction, they have similar stats (level, speed, hit points, AC, DEF, attack, damage), and so it seems reasonable to compare them, even though their roles will vary somewhat.
Dave | |
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Kevizoid
Sergeant
373 Posts
Southern California
| | 07/18/2008 2:38 PM |
| | It's all about the free attack. Merc general still, is really only viable in sellsword type builds where you are using his champion power/cohort effectively. Blackguard is supposed to be more in traditional hitter type builds, where they do a crapton of damage to you. | |
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Lord_rock
Underboss
1777 Posts
Portland OR
| | 07/18/2008 4:26 PM |
| | give the blackguard 5 hp, 5 more dmg, and champ 4 and you'd be in business. His first champ power is big and his second cracks a lot of nuts but he doesn't contribute as much as he needs to by himself. Close but no cigar I say. Still better than too many pieces in this set. | |
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Pedro
Commander
3922 Posts
Czech Republic
| | 07/19/2008 2:15 AM |
| Too bad the attack bonus is restricted to bloodied only...
Otherwise I agree with Dave.
The serious debuff of the Blackguard would be immensely useful in epic. | |
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Sirohk
Commander
3779 Posts
USA
| | 07/19/2008 6:07 AM |
| I generally agree. Merc General for the cost is a little bit beter piece. But both pieces serve different functions in a warband.Â
As a big fan of the Human Blackguard I was hoping for as a 46 pt piece he would do at least 20 damage. His +17 ATT is nice though. And his Champ Powers are cool.Â
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