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07/23/2008 9:34 AM  
Looking through my collection last nite, I saw a few holes that I would like to see filled with future commons:

1. Human Archer - similar to the Human Crossbowman.  I know we have the Dalelands Militia, Free League Ranger and Militia Archer, but I would like to have an archer that would look good on the battle field or high on a castle wall.  Heck, it might be time for another crossbowman soldier as well.

2. Human/Half-elf/Elf Bandit/Thug/Brute - clothes and perhaps patchwork leather armor with a club.  Something simple.  I would say something

3. Watch/War Dog - a mastiff of some sort

4. Goblin with Club - I think the last two goblins have been duds.  My favorite so far is the Blackblade, so a sculpt with the same quality and a club would go a long way.  Heck, they could just make the Snow Goblin from Frostburn:


5. Human/Half-elf/Elf with a javelin/spear - we've got plenty people holding spears, so why not a goodly race humanoid throwing a spear?

Anyone else have any ideas?

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07/23/2008 9:38 AM  
A few more:

6. Orc Archer/Crossbowman/Spearfighter - LONG over due

7. Lizardfolk Slinger/Darter - need a standard sized Lizardfolk with comparable sculpt quality to the Dark Talon Champion (I do not like the Lizardfolk Raider).

8. Lizardfolk Shaman - skull necklace, staff, shamany looking stuff.

9. Lizardfolk Spearman - throwing or thrusting.

10. Orc/Hobgoblin/Goblin Monk/Brawler - weaponless fighter ala Gnoll Claw Fighter

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07/23/2008 10:42 AM  
Citizens,man;We need citizens.Something like damsels and tabern owners.In adition to the RPG valuable use, these minis will be the cheapest fillers and very useful in skirmish.Oh...I would love they release a gypsy dancer (an almost naked very sexy dancer with a maste sculpt and paintjob).

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07/23/2008 10:42 AM  
Would love a snow goblin
I would love another bullywug
Bugbear shaman (better uncommon maybe)
Sahuagin with a net
think of more ideas also, great list by the way! :)

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07/23/2008 10:58 AM  
Long Overdue:

Human thugs
Human citizens
Medium Dogs
Hellhound

Good:

Goblin with Club
Bugbear Shaman - not necessarily common
Lizardfolk Shaman - not necessarily common

Hobgoblin we have the monk...

I'd add:

Hoplite
Bugbear Spearman
Bugbear Archer
Bugbear Berserker (yeh bloodghost is ok)
Gothic Looking Humans
Old Witch (new hag is good though)
Nymph/Dryad type (not necessarily common)


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07/23/2008 11:50 AM  
I don't think any of the noncombatants should be commons. I'd rather have one or two a set as uncommons. I don't think noncombatants would make good minis to have in huge numbers.

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07/23/2008 11:52 AM  
Posted By greyhaze on 07/23/2008 10:58 AM
Hobgoblin we have the monk...


But he has a chain, and I don't necessarily like this garb.  I really don't like the monk label at all, but that is what I thought of at the time.  How about just a brawler then?

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07/23/2008 12:07 PM  
A common must be small or medium and structurally simple. Also, I think the best commons are the ones that don't have too many small details. Otherwise, it looks like the mini is missing paintsteps. The following would be good choices for commons, IMO:

Aboleth servitor (should definitely have a glossy finish to look slimy, though).
Bodak (may be too high in level, but one of the most simple monsters in the book).
Spitting drake (maybe)
Quickling
Giant rat
Spectre (maybe... All clear plastic minis so far have been uncommon or rare, right?)

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07/23/2008 12:58 PM  
Posted By greyhaze on 07/23/2008 10:58 AM
Long Overdue:

Human thugs



I'd 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th that one. I'd like to see 2-3 guys with either no or leather armor with simple weapons like clubs etc.

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07/23/2008 1:35 PM  
Here are some "Commoner" Commons that could work out

Town Ruffian - a Overweight thug in leather armor, arms folded on chest and sheathed short sword in back.
Skirmish: Civ/border; low point figure (10 points?) with melee sneak attack, posibly a one use daze attack

Blacksmith -  Burly guy, apron and Hammer
Skirmish: Civ/border; low to medium cost figure (15-25 points?) it gives every other creature(costing 25 or less) in your warband +2 attack Â

Wise woman - Old Crone in robes - think Hag in Human form ;)
Skirmish: Wild/border; low to medium cost (15-20 points) stat wise we could go with a White witch with healing abilities, or give her some Fey Warlock abilities

Game warden - Rough looking man in leather armor, bow and shortsword
Skirmish: Wild/border; low to medium cost (15-20 points)  pretty much  a skirmishy archer, with some sort of "Foe" ability you set before the game begins; it gives him +5 damage vrs that creature type.

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07/23/2008 1:54 PM  
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07/23/2008 1:56 PM  
So, Blink Dog, Human Barmaid and Commoner and Monstrous Centipede were the most wanted of the list.

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07/23/2008 1:59 PM  
But the ones I would really like to see made into commons would be:

Electrum Clockwork Horror
Dretch (resculpt)

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07/23/2008 2:05 PM  
Posted By Mjollnir on 07/23/2008 1:59 PM
But the ones I would really like to see made into commons would be:

Electrum Clockwork Horror
Dretch (resculpt)
I believe we will be getting a dretch (hopefully soon):



As for clockwork horrors, I use SWM Crab Droids:



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07/23/2008 2:10 PM  
Are they commons as well?

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07/23/2008 2:24 PM  
Posted By Mjollnir on 07/23/2008 2:10 PM
Are they commons as well?
The crab droids are Uc.


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07/23/2008 2:28 PM  
More ideas:

1. Elven/Half-Elf w/spears, pikes

2. Ghost (believe this was mentioned already)

3. Dwarf w/throwing axes

4. Unarmed Skeleton

5. Ethnic warriors (Arabian swordsmen, Asian spearmen, Jungle/Island Natives, Vikings, etc)

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07/23/2008 3:15 PM  
Exotic weapons galore.

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07/23/2008 5:12 PM  
Posted By Username on 07/23/2008 2:28 PM
More ideas:

5. Ethnic warriors (Arabian swordsmen, Asian spearmen, Jungle/Island Natives, Vikings, etc)

I was thinking the same thing, along with Aztec and Native (North) American inspired figured.

Also:

A common version of the new gnome
Aboleth Servitor
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07/23/2008 5:21 PM  
I.....I don't actually want to see Ethnic warriors/fighters in the game. Not just to have ethnic warriors in mini form. If we get expansions and sets that feature D&D equivalents of Native Americans, Jungle Natives (which I suppose just means black guys with spears....yikes), and what-not then fine but.....
I'd rather just see some normal pieces wearing untraditional clothing. A lot of the Fashion in the Eberron books looks to be middle eastern, the fashion in some of the Races of Dragon whatever book is insanely different, and there are oriental classes, characters, and locals all through D&D. Ok, all I'm saying is that I want the same thing, but I don't want to think about it as a "give me ethnic minis" and more a bring me minis representing stuff that's already in the game. If that makes sense.

By the by, we've already had a common Viking miniature....Hero of Valhalla or something from a while back. I've got a couple and it always makes me laugh. "Where the hell does Odin fall into the whole D&D mythos?"
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07/23/2008 6:58 PM  
It's more than likely, just the quickest way to get the idea of diversity and "representation" across. Kord is effectively Thor, Frost, Fire and Mountain Giants are from Viking mythology (Jotun), it's a very easy bridge - and in 3.5 Yssdragil was part of the Demonweb module.


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07/24/2008 3:39 AM  
Posted By Username on 07/23/2008 2:28 PM
More ideas:

1. Elven/Half-Elf w/spears, pikes

2. Ghost (believe this was mentioned already)

3. Dwarf w/throwing axes

4. Unarmed Skeleton

5. Ethnic warriors (Arabian swordsmen, Asian spearmen, Jungle/Island Natives, Vikings, etc)


1) I wholeheartedly agree. Definitely more Japanese:) Or an Arab with a thick, nicely curved scimitar (Maur from Robin Hood?)

2) I'd like to see some more foot soldiers in various types of armor in real phalanx sculpt. Shield up front, so if I put more of them together, there are no holes.

3) A human archer not firing would also be good.

4) And that small demon thingy that's the lowliest member of them. It looks like a lump of gelatine and deformed skin:)

5) Dwarves with rifles.

6) Exotic Weapons. And dual weapons.

7) a single rat.

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07/24/2008 5:18 AM  
Posted By Teflon Jeff on 07/23/2008 3:15 PM
Exotic weapons galore.
I think that would be more of a Uc thing.

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Posted By Pedro on 07/24/2008 3:39 AM

5) Dwarves with rifles.

Bring on the boom sticks!

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07/24/2008 7:56 AM  
More!:

1. Celt/Pict Warriors
2. Barbarians in loincloths w/axes or clubs (Conan style)
3. Small/Medium scorpions (and other vermin)
4. Vermin swarms (medium sized)

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Posted By Pedro on 07/24/2008 3:39 AM
4) And that small demon thingy that's the lowliest member of them. It looks like a lump of gelatine and deformed skin:)


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07/24/2008 8:49 AM  
Posted By portermj on 07/24/2008 8:24 AM
Posted By Pedro on 07/24/2008 3:39 AM
4) And that small demon thingy that's the lowliest member of them. It looks like a lump of gelatine and deformed skin:)


Are you talking about Cable News Pundits?

Dretch (pictured above) or the Lemure I think (but that was a pretty funny joke).

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07/24/2008 11:53 AM  
Hey! Anti-champion of guns cutting in here! No rifles, rifles are a gun, no guns! :P


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07/24/2008 11:53 AM  
And please, for the love of minis, leave exotic weapons to the uncommon/rare slots -


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07/24/2008 1:58 PM  
Posted By greyhaze on 07/24/2008 11:53 AM
And please, for the love of minis, leave exotic weapons to the uncommon/rare slots -


Okay, I can see that. Except racial exotics. I would love to see more dwarven urgoshes and Orc double-axes.

And I concur, no Guns.

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07/24/2008 2:19 PM  
Legion Devils. Considering that theya re miniion-only in RPG, they make good mobs.

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07/24/2008 3:03 PM  
I'll agree with both. Racial exotics are good, and legion devils good.


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07/25/2008 4:29 AM  
Legion devils are a good idea... in fact, why not make most/all of the minions in the MM as commons? It'd make it mush easier (for RPGers) to use them in the numbers that they are supposed to show up in.

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07/25/2008 8:08 AM  
My votes

1) Female fighter with any weapon but a sword. I can only recall one female fighter with an axe (from Desert of D?) and a spear. Would love to see a greataxe or maul wielding two handed female fighter!

2) Female halfling wizard. Doesn't have to be a common but I would love to see just one.

3) Fourth the call for a common Legion Devil - I can't wait to use these guys in a fight. So far my minion battles have gone very well.

4) Slovenly Trull

5) Brazen Strumpet

6) Cheap Trollop

7) Typical Streetwalker

8) Saucy Tart

9) Wanton Wench

10) Expensive Doxy

11) Haughty Courtesan

12) Aged Madam

13) Wealthy Procuress

14) Sly Pimp

15) Rich Panderer

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07/25/2008 8:52 AM  
Posted By Pale Rider on 07/25/2008 8:08 AM
My votes

1) Female fighter with any weapon but a sword. I can only recall one female fighter with an axe (from Desert of D?) and a spear. Would love to see a greataxe or maul wielding two handed female fighter!

2) Female halfling wizard. Doesn't have to be a common but I would love to see just one.

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1. I'm guessing you mean fully armoured, cause we have the shadow dancer and doomguard dual wielding. The axe sister from harbinger, axesoldier is fully armoured, hey there's always the champion of yondalla... well, although I agree we need more, there are a smattering of different figs.

3. Isn't the halfling enchanter a female?

4-11. It's unlikely we'll get a strumpet, however, if done cleverly, we could get one without going past a PG rating.

I'd agree with 12-15, except 14 is odd. how about a tax collector instead? ;)


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1)  Blink Dog (C)

2)  Blink Dog Trainer (U)

3)  Zanthar, the Displacer Beast Killer (R)

4)  Pixie mounted on Blink Dog (R)

5)  Swarm of Blink Dogs (Huge Uncommon)

6)  Displacer Beast Carcass (with visible Blink Dog bite marks) (Promo)

7)  Rabid or Ferral Blink Dog (OP repaint of #1)

8)  Dire Blink Dog (Large Uncommon)



Well,  There really is only one needed Common then, isn't there?


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07/25/2008 9:40 AM  
Nice Zoons...

I'd second a Fire Beetle

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Completed trades ( 48 ): Pikel, Darrell, JeffDHarvey, BiggPappa001, Ghendar, Valinrook X2, Wolfgang x3, Wraithborne x5, Mr Ruffles, Anothermullen, CKissee x3, Browns_Scoundrel, Kyrin, GuJiaXian x2, Tyngfumv, Basic_Aim, Mickey Mouse, Berus316, Crisisman, Zoons, Rockfrd, Sterling40 x2, Brucemc, 2007 Magical Mystery Trade, Redskullz x2, Stephengroy, Lyus_Sleyden, Foolforthought, 2008 Magical Mystery Trade, Kilsek x4, Generic Fighter, Auric, Relientkitten
Pending trades ( 5 ): relientKitten, Wraithborne, Redskullz, Darrell, Wolfgang
WotC trades ( 1 ): Red_Deceiver
Bad trades ( 2 ): LeftEyeofGruumsh, Yotebeth
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Sector 2814

07/25/2008 10:22 AM  
Atta boy, Zoons.

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Denmark

07/25/2008 10:47 AM  
I've never seen the point with non-combatant minis, especially now that the game is more centered on combat than ever, but Pale Rider's 3 through 15 sound excellent to me. Put me down for one of each!

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